"There will be NO renegotiation!" says Juncker for EU. Let us get out NOW!

I don't want Mays deal and nor does Sammy Wilson DUP he wants to leave without a deal and says the Irish Border issue is a red herring.

Day6 I agree that we have been to nice.

Definitely should have played “hardball” from day 1

A YouGov poll has discovered that 11 per cent of the public agree with the proposition “politics is working well”. Who are they, these one in nine of the populace, and why are they at liberty?

www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-chaos-theresa-may-general-election-second-referendum-commons-vote-a8675001.html

I agree! The Irish Border is as red herring in my opinion also.
Doesn't the EU have borders with other countries who are not in the EU.
Why is the Irish border made out to be such a big problem?

Brexit Britain: Small, boring and stupid
The UK better get used to being a middling power.

www.politico.eu/article/brexit-britain-small-boring-and-stupid-theresa-may-eu-withdrawal-deal/

I noticed this this morning, its all on Google.
European Common Transit Convention after Brexit.

A middling power? I don't think so!!

I don’t think so - we are still the 5th biggest economy in the world.

Britain decided to leave the European Union in 2016, when 51.9 percent chose to Vote Leave, but how much is Brexit cost the UK so far?

Brexit is costing the UK £500 million a week - or £26 billion per annum, according to research by the Centre for European Reform.

The UK economy is 2.5 percent smaller than it would be if the UK had voted to remain in the European Union, the thinktank said.

The cost of Brexit is growing, despite Brexiteers promising a dividend of £350m a week for leaving the EU - a campaign promise the Leave side famously declared on a Vote Leave bus.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1045243/Brexit-cost-how-much-has-brexit-cost-uk-june-2018-500-million-pounds-a-week

Astonishing admission from the Daily Express which has relentlessly campaigned for brexit for years.

If we're so Small, boring and stupid.
Why are the EU fighting tooth and nail to keep us?
They're so large, riveting and clever, (NOT) why do they need little old UK?

The EU is doomed to failure. Why tie ourselves to a sinking ship.
There's massive unrest starting in many countries in the EU.
Dissatisfaction with how these unelected officials rule like Demi-gods.
Revolting men like Juncker feathering their own nests!
Looking down on the stupid hoi polloi proletariat.
The tide is turning!
It was doomed to failure from the beginning anyway.

Since 27% of the UK population voted to leave in 2016 the support for EU membership has risen in all the other 27 member countries.

By the politicians in those countries?
I have no doubt!
The citizens maybe not so much!

E,C,T.C? Any comments?

Varian
In reply to your post @ 18.44.
For a really stupid people we have managed to create many of the worlds top inventions including the one your using now
We don't do bad for Nobel prize winners, either, second only to America.
World class universities, yes that's us there again, right up there with the best.
Look in any field of endeavour from creating many of the worlds top sports, to much of the worlds best art and music.
So we don't do too bad for a stupid people, do we?

I like your style Buffybee

Why is the Irish border made out to be such a big problem

History? Religion?

E,C,T.C? Any comments?

Earlier on today in this thread, isn't it, nellie?

Why are the EU fighting tooth and nail to keep us?

I don't think that they are, Buffy.

How do you think they are 'fighting to keep us'?

The EU is doomed to failure. Why tie ourselves to a sinking ship.
There's massive unrest starting in many countries in the EU.
Dissatisfaction with how these unelected officials rule like Demi-gods.
Revolting men like Juncker feathering their own nests!
Looking down on the stupid hoi polloi proletariat
The tide is turning!
It was doomed to failure from the beginning anyway.

Splendid rant, Buffy

Now can you give us some facts?

Support for the EU is much stronger in mainland Europe - no one wants to emulate the UKs political and economic chaos
We’ve plenty of unelected officials right here in the UK, House of Lords anyone?.

MazieD
These are facts.

marketmonetarist.com/2015/07/14/the-euro-a-monetary-strangulation-mechanism/

MazieD
This is from a newspaper which I believe is respected by many leavers.
www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jun/13/euro-growth-eurozone-joseph-stiglitz

I know about the euro, petra.

We are not in the euro. We have a sovereign currency. The EU could not interfere with our national economy in any way whatsoever. Cameron had negotiated a permanent opt-out from the euro so it couldn't have done so in the future had we not had a moment of collective madness.

However, although we may pat ourselves on the back for never having joined the euro (and voting Leave) it makes very little difference to the way that our economy is being run because it is driven by the very same economic theory which informs the EU's dealings with the euro states. Which is causing untold misery and hardship for the UK citizens who are just about managing or living below the bread line. Leaving the EU won't do anything to improve things for them.

Forecasters say there's another global recession on its way... I'd worry more about that.

I can’t believe people are so *****as to think the British border ( not the Irish one) is of so little importance.

Well, a DUP MP insists that it is a non-issue. So all those very worried NI people must be wrong