Labour official blames all world wars on Jews.

Those people in Birmingham just happened to be in a pub

had I been older and Irish I would undoubtedly have considered joining the IRA.
The Birmingham pub bombings were in 1974.

I am surprised that you were not 18+ in 1974 trisher - sorry, you must be younger than I thought from some of your posts. Mental revision.

I am also astonished that a self-professed committed pacifist would have considered joining a group which bombed and killed innocent civilians.

Your AC were at the sharp end of the so called Islamic State because they are in the forces. A choice, a career.

The people wrongly accused of the Birmingham bombing just happened to be in the area and have Irish accents.

No confusion lemon one talks to people who are trying desperately to build a state for a people displaced, robbed of land, kept prisoner and denied their human rights by a state which was founded with much the same methods as they have used.
The other welcomes and crawls to a dynasty where women just disappear, that has promoted an extreme version of Islam which most muslims reject, which arms fundamentalist terrorists and bombs children and families.
I know which is more morally acceptable.

lemon let’s be fair to Corbyn, yes he was at the wreath laying ceremony but doesn’t think he was actually involved,
Well it was 4 years ago !

Good post Annie
trisher your laughable post about Mrs May being a friend of terrorists, dear oh dear.
You are confusing her with Corbyn the wreath layer.

GG13 Did you see the programme? A whole family devastated. Teenage boys beaten up by police. Evidence which would have shown them innocent deliberately with held. It was harrowing to listen to even years later, the emotional effect must have been huge. It is what drives people to take radical actions.

I think that the majority of the H of C are utterly useless and despicable at the moment trisher. I shall make my decision on my local MP, and their record on voting in the H of C and what is happening in my area.

Realy ‘trisher’ you support violence ?. Treatment of the Birmingham Six was appalling , the killing of the 21 innocent people, injuries to 182 people and the grief caused was appalling, yet you would have joined the IRA!

Perhaps, but you won't be supporting Mrs May I hope, as you don't like people who are friends with terrorists.

trisher your last post is really not very helpful to your claim to have "principles"

My AC has been at the sharp end of Islamic State on more than one occasion.

They will always find armaments from whatever means they can.

I watched the programme about the family accused and convicted of the Birmingham pub bombings (they were innocent) I was disgusted by the behaviour of the Police and the judiciary, had I been older and Irish I would undoubtedly have considered joining the IRA. The British government cannot absolve itself from responsibility.

Going back to the time I changed my opinion on Corbyn, just learning he was working against the party and party members who were realing after the crushing 1983 election.

And he invited two former IRA leaders to Westminster just a short time after the Brighton bombing, people were grieving and he had no compassion, if he can do this he is a man not capable of compassion , he is a cold fish

GrannyGravy13 perhaps you can explain to me how selling arms to Saudi, some of which have been shown to finish up in the possession of Isamic extremists, is helping British defence.
Oh lemon pointed and pointless!! (but if you can quote one single issue I raised that you have posted real, interesting or informed comment about I will apologise.)

I wonder if those who are vehemently against the arms trade would be happy to see the tens of thousands of people who are currently employed in the industry, from research, design and through to manufacture would be happy to see them on the "dole"?

Are they happy to live in a country which is unable to defend itself or those who need protection?

Compassion, caring, wanting the best for other people and having a heart/giving of time and efforts to improve the world in small ways are values of most people, many of them with no interest in politics or current MPs.

Labour does not have the monopoly on compassion.

Being poor doesn't make one somehow noble and good and being well off does not turn a person into a heartless bastard.

Although Labour spin would have us believe otherwise.

And most of us do have principles. We just don't see the world through your socialist/Marxist tinted spectacles. Under Corbyn's leadership hatred seems to prevail, setting people against each other. It's ironic, isn't it? The young left chant 'death to all Tories; without a second thought imagining anyone not voting for Corbyn's version of how it should work is callous and selfish.

That in itself is worrying - and pretty nasty.

Go and have a large Baileys trisher it will do you good.
My comment may have been pointed ( in your direction) but wasn’t pointless.

Another failing of the right is to post meaningless comments and refuse to engage in proper discussion (probably because they don't have a leg to stand on.)

Day6 another failing of the far left is to fondly imagine that only they have any principles.

I too have principles trisher as do all here. It is my principles which make it impossible for me to support Corbyn . I am no Scarlet O’Hara, ‘ if I have to lie , cheat, kill’

Dy6 I don't propose to get into silly arguments with you. There are those of us who are grateful for the support we received courtesy of the socialist policies introduced post WW2 and who wish to pass those same levels of support on to our children and grandchildre; and there are those who deny any such support and would not only kick the hand that fed them, but make damn sure no one else is fed.
They are usually the same people who post about the sacrifices made by British soldiers, but are quite happy to see those who funded the conflicts royally entertained.
My principles may be hard to acheive but at least I have some.

I suppose that the great Marxist, Lenin, killed 4 million people by other means than weaponry, then.

On 21st January 1924, Vladimir Lenin, the great Marxist and leader of the Russian Revolution, died from complications arising from an earlier assassin’s bullet.
Ironic.

We know by now that some ardent left wingers here support and recognise Marxist Corbyn as being the second coming, and he, along with all powerful hard left Momentum in the background. will cure all the world's ills and wipe out poverty and suffering in one fell swoop.

He'll also ban the making of arms and the UK's defence budget will no longer exist, because any war-mongering/terrorist enemies will come to their senses when he calls them 'friends'. He'll understand though the radicals and religious fundamentalists in our midst who have points to make....they'll talk about home made bombs over tea.

Using the arms trade as an excuse for Corbyn's nasty anti Israel stance, and terrorist supporting gaffes as a stick to beat ANY government is pretty desperate trisher.

Or will there not be an army, navy and air force or an arms trade, weaponry, and military forces when socialists are in charge of the country???

Just asking. I think every PM in my lifetime has had to accept that the industry surrounding weapons exists and the makers of arms also supply them because - well, there would be no point making them otherwise.

In an ideal world there'd be no need, but we know Corbyn and co are not likely to create any sort of socialist/Marxist heaven on earth if other hellish socialist regimes are anything to go by.

The position of TM and indeed other PMs on SA is entirely relevant to this thread. It is deplorable that the British government sells arms to governments like that.

Some seem to think Corbyn supports terrorists by his anti-Israel stance, whereas our PM clearly supports a regime like the Saudies who openly commit mass murder. But then they are wealthy are they not and have something we in the West need unlike poverty-sticken Palestine.