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Anna Soubry

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varian Mon 07-Jan-19 18:28:08

MP Anna Soubry has criticised the police for failing to intervene after she was verbally abused by protesters outside Parliament.

The Conservative ex-minister was accused "of being a Nazi", while being interviewed on the BBC News channel.

She called for the protesters, who were wearing yellow vests, to be prosecuted under public order legislation.

Commons Speaker John Bercow said he was worried about a "pattern" of women MPs and journalists being targeted.

Raising the issue in the House of Commons, Labour's Mary Creagh said the "really vile, misogynistic thuggery" that had been seen was not an isolated incident.

She accused far-right groups of re-playing Monday's clip and others like it on social media sites to "raise revenue for their trolling activities".

Ms Soubry, the pro-European MP for Broxtowe who supports another Brexit referendum, was subjected to verbal abuse while being interviewed by the BBC's Simon McCoy.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46785357

Labaik Tue 15-Jan-19 15:49:58

Thanks POGS.

POGS Tue 15-Jan-19 14:49:53

Labaik

What I posted was this :-

"Are you saying in your post Anna Soubry 'staged' the whole affair?

What would be the purpose of that if not to make Leavers look like bullies to make a political point?"
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I have at no time defended the action of those who surrounded Soubry and certainly I have gone to great lengths to point out bullying is not a left/right of politics problem!

I was surprised a poster raised the point it was possibly 'staged' by posting this :-

"Apparently there is evidence that the hecklers who "harassed" Anna Soubry was all a set up.She knew them and knew when they were going to do it .

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true ..."
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I do not think Soubry ' set up' anything so I am sorry if my post has been misconstrued by some posters perhaps I made a clumsy attempt to portray that message.

Jalima1108 Tue 15-Jan-19 13:39:22

I'll have another look.

I thought all this subterfuge was done on park benches with newspapers.
It always is in the old spy films anyhow.

MaizieD Tue 15-Jan-19 12:01:11

Jalima this is what petra posted.

It's all on film. If you look at the film you will see one of the 'main' hecklers, he crosses from the right walking towards ASs 'press man, Sean somebody.

This heckler puts his right hand inside 'Sean's' coat and quickly backs off.

The clip might not be the one she was talking about but it shows the same incident that she describes. You have to be a bit eagle eyed to see it.

Incidentally, I found this particular one on twitter, posted by a Leaver who was making the same insinuations. I saw it on many timelines just after the incident, just didn't save it so had to hunt a bit for it today (twitter moves fast.and things drop out very quickly) Even though it might not be easily found by googling it's still out there.

Labaik Tue 15-Jan-19 11:30:18

...oh, and I include the far left as well as the far right in that, too...

Labaik Tue 15-Jan-19 11:21:36

'What would be the purpose of that if not to make Leavers look like bullies to make a political point'; what do you mean 'made to look like bullies?' pray tell. imo those particular leavers are bullies. Are you saying the video was manipulated to make it look worse than it is? This is the first time in my life that I have been afraid to wear my political heart on my sleeve and am scared to wear anything anti Brexit in public.

Jalima1108 Tue 15-Jan-19 10:48:33

I was looking for the news report which petra mentioned though.
That link is to a different one.

Anniebach Tue 15-Jan-19 10:45:32

She smiled as she entered the building ? No .

She smiled being interviewed by sky, quite usual, she wasn’t surrounded by the hecklers.

Nothing ‘fixed ‘ about it.

MaizieD Tue 15-Jan-19 10:31:50

It's here:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-46789601?__twitter_impression=true

Make up your own minds.

Jalima1108 Tue 15-Jan-19 00:10:08

It seems odd that the other days' news reports were on that bbc website but the one for 7th January did not appear to be there.
Curiouser and curiouser

MaizieD Mon 14-Jan-19 23:37:22

I was adressing 2 people in one post, POGS. Petra seemed to 'know' something she wasn't being forthcoming about.

Grandad1943 Mon 14-Jan-19 22:19:35

Ahh, conspiracy theories there is never any stopping of them.

Have you not heard, the United States astronauts never ever really landed on the moon, it was all filmed in the Warner Brothers studios in Hollywood. grin

POGS Mon 14-Jan-19 21:50:29

Why petra?

I am asking the question of the first person to raise the possible scenario.

MaizieD Mon 14-Jan-19 20:27:05

No evidence, as yet, POGS

I would have thought that had it been true, one of the harassing group would have told the full story to the press by now. The RW press would have lapped it up and made a real meal of it.

Perhaps the lady in the know, petra, could explain why this tale is only being spread by means of nods and winks.

POGS Mon 14-Jan-19 19:41:20

paddyann Sun 13-Jan-19 14:09:40

" Apparently there is evidence that the hecklers who "harassed" Anna Soubry was all a set up.She knew them and knew when they were going to do it .

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true ..."
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Are you saying in your post Anna Soubry 'staged' the whole affair?

What would be the purpose of that if not to make Leavers look like bullies to make a political point?

MaizieD Sun 13-Jan-19 23:30:32

I have said anything because I think some of you know why

Oh dear.

What about those not in the clique?

Jalima1108 Sun 13-Jan-19 23:15:27

Sorry, this episode is not currently available
would you believe it petra!

petra Sun 13-Jan-19 22:08:47

I've just watched again. It's not under sky news, it is under BBC East Midlans news 7th Jan.
Sean has a scarf on with a press tag round his neck.

petra Sun 13-Jan-19 22:00:30

At last!! It's coming out. I have said anything because I think some of you know why wink
It's all on film. If you look at the film you will see one of the 'main' hecklers, he crosses from the right walking towards ASs 'press man, Sean somebody.

This heckler puts his right hand inside 'Sean's' coat and quickly backs off.
It's on Facebook under Sky news, I think.

Urmstongran Sun 13-Jan-19 20:10:58

Actually paddyann you could be right - maybe there is something in what you say as, even at the time of the heckling outside the HoC, Ms. Soubry was smiling at the TV Sky cameras as she walked in! She certainly didn’t look upset. I remember commenting on this to my husband that day.

Anniebach Sun 13-Jan-19 19:51:15

Was the second demo when he was arrested arranged to paddyanne?

Labaik Sun 13-Jan-19 19:26:01

Yes; I'd like to know, too. Mind you, as one of them has been arrested and bailed, I'm sure it will come out in court.

MaizieD Sun 13-Jan-19 17:55:33

That's why I'd like to know the source, varian

varian Sun 13-Jan-19 17:28:15

Probably fake news.

MaizieD Sun 13-Jan-19 16:32:52

Please do, paddyann. I've googled and I can't find anything.