What next?

Oh dear. The old "Britain won the war" chestnut. No we didn't win it. We were struggling on, assisted by a few Polish people, and relying on food shipped from the US and Canada to keep us from starvation. The army had been chased out of Europe and the UK lived in fear of invasion. It was the USA's intervention that saved us and allowed the successful D Day landings etc. Not to mention massive loans.

The saddest thing of all is that everyone is so entrenched in their own point of view - and belief that they are right - that no compromise is possible without more anger and division. The referendum dictates that we must leave...the future for our grandchildren has been decided....I hope that they will forgive us and that the Europe of the future will not shut them out.

What would happen if we had another referendum and the result was still leave? It seems people think it would definitely be remain. Also, everyone appears to be mad at TM, why not be mad at the unelected in the EU?

You have perfectly illustrated the challenge - everyone has a different view.

GrandetanteJE65
Omg, being laughed at ? can't you feel the UK shaking in its boots (with laughter) at those in the EU who feel 'indispensable 'to our survival.
Didn't the UK survive WW2 and six years of food and other shortages. We prevented invasion of our island and gave assistance to those across the channel who were invaded..
Countries far across and around the world came to our aid losing their own lives to provide the UK food and other essentials so what leads you to believe anything Denmark imposes will be the end of the world /Brexit.
A few hiccups maybe ?inevitable at the start.
I am, as many like me, getting vibes that others in the EU are more concerned with the impact Brexit will have on them and their country than the UK itself. So why not wait.It may not be the disaster you imagine and implying the UK will 'lose out' on what Denmark offers?
Don't hold your breath.

No, Even your first point is wrong Barnet.

The amount of money on ‘that bus’ was correct! £350,000,000 for the government to spend on whatever it likes.
Every Single Week.
Just think on that!

The mistake Leave means Leave made was to say it was for the NHS.

It should have just said something like ‘for The Treasury to keep - every week’.

Mrs May clarified this amount (so not a lie!) at the end of November last year. She is quoted as having said that in fact, since the referendum it was now £390 million a week.

I wish people would stop banging on about this as if it were a lie. And of course the BBC and SKY news didn’t overly make a big announcement about it at the time.

Well, they wouldn’t, would they?

Yes, the poster who said we can revoke Article 50 is correct. We only need the EU 27 member states to agree to an extension. Not the same thing! To revoke it means to cancel Brexit by never re-invoking it - as the Remainers who understand it know full well.

The whole miss mash in the HoC is because even though swathes of their constituents voted to Leave, the HoC is stuffed to the gills with MP’s who are Remainers! They don’t want us to leave and our doing their very best to thwart it. Hence Anna Soubry and countless other MP’s just cannot get behind Brexit even though they were voted in by a party manifesto (Labour & Conservative both) to ‘honour the result of the referendum’. We rely on these duplicitous MP’s to do what we put them there for!

The Lib Dem’s by the way we’re the only party to say at the GE that they would have a second referendum - and they only polled 7% of the votes. Speaks volumes.

Sorry for the rant.
(But I do feel better for it!).

Does anyone remember The Gravy Train, a satirical comedy drama series by Malcolm Bradbury shown on C4 in 1990? Nothing has changed.

Hear hear Lyndilo well said. Completely agree with you.

Well said Lindyloo...nobody talks about the positive ....all you hear is about negative issues. What do you people( the under 50’s) think we were doing before we joined the Common Market? We managed to build an empire without the help of Europe ...they have done nothing but fight and bicker since the word ‘europe’ was coined. Not to mention upstarts causing world wars. It’s not meant to be...well not yet anyway....sometime down the road europe will put away their petit differences and really ‘come together’. None of us are ready for it yet!

Ayes.
What do you mean by "We don't have to leave .This is a democratic Country so we can change our minds".
Many of us made up our minds in 2016
We don't want to change our minds.
Just because the result does not please everyone ,it did please the majority.
We do have to leave.
That is democracy.

I am all for leaving with no deal if that's the way it has to be. My main concern is that once running our own country again, is anyone capable of doing the job properly? We have been governed for so long by foreigners making every one of our decisions, (inc straight bananas), remember those? Is there anyone out there who could do it? I have my doubts.

Jabberwok - yes it might well be worse than the war years as this will be brother v brother, family v family. Civil war, which certain sections of the far right have been calling for.
Yes, I do have knowledge of WW2 as both my parents were involved. My dad was a POW, escaping twice and my Mum was in the ATS working on the 'Ack-Ack' guns.

25Avalon - you honestly think most UK trade isn't with Europe?
''In 2017, UK exports to the EU were £274 billion (44% of all UK exports). UK imports from the EU were £341 billion (53% of all UK imports). The share of UK exports accounted for by the EU has fallen over time from 55% in 2006 to 43% in 2016, increasing slightly to 44% in 2017.'' This is from an HoC library briefing, so I'd rely more on their figures than some random stuff.

Helen369 - what WAS actually voted for? I don't remember the MP's who supported Leave actually telling us what was on the Brexit agenda. There was a vote to Remain back in 1975, why didn't Cameron remember that instead of forcing us into a vote which nobody really wanted?
The whole point of democracy is that people can change their minds. If they can't, it becomes dictatorship.

I agree with Lyndiloo and Lemongrove. It is not voters who are trying to undermine democracy, it is politicians who obstruct the process at every stage.

Labour want an election and will obstruct everything in a chance to achieve this.

There is talk of further enlargement in the EU, countries being forced to adopt the euro, tax integration, and of course, a European army.

None of which we signed up to, and I feel we now need to regain sovereignty and make our own decisions without being dictated to by Europe.

Whether remain or leave , our MPs should be ashamed of how they are behaving , it seems to be all about scoring points, whilst the people who keep this wonderful country going are struggling and worrying Day by day . People are being laid off and losing their jobs whilst the idiots In parliament play their games,

Nice one Call me Dave.

Well said eazybee

Labaik: "I have been wondering tonight if those who have campaigned to leave the EU [and voted for it] are proud of what they've brought this country to sad ..."
It's not those who voted to leave that brought this country to a shambles; it's what the government have done (or not done) since the vote that have brought the shambles and made us a laughing stock.

I don't agree EllanVannin - and 52% of the population didn't agree with you either. This country is alleged to be a democracy, and as a democracy, the people voted to leave the EU.

GabriellaG54,

Don’t expect an iota of gratitude.

...quite the opposite in fact.

I am ok that I voted Brexit but not ok with undemocratic people telling me I was wrong to vote for what I want we are at this point in time free to vote how we choose

paddyann
I was under the impression that we in England supported you to the tune of over £1000 pa pp

who the hell do these politocians think they are , the country voted to leave, mps don't want to leave cause of their gravy train and payoffs being part of Europe eg mr Kinnock etc. why don't they stop argueing and get on with it, why have one all labour want is a peoples vote we have had one,are they going to keep going until they get what they want ,all labour wnt is a vote to try and take power. is Corbyn stupid or does he want every bit of the legestration voted on,

Couldn’t agree more tickingbird a Corbyn Abbott led government would be utterly disasterous for this country.

Inept racist and deeply unpleasant and I am no Tory

Lyndiloo forgive me, but you are living in a fool’s paradise - or looking forward to one. Jaycee5 a lot of good sense in your post - the negotiations should never have been left to a single party of whatever colour. In an issue of such importance, all of them should’ve put forward some of their best - Keir Starmer certainly should’ve been there - to form the negotiating panel. But then, hindsight is perfect vision. And so much better to try to reform from inside an organisation than have no say whatsoever ........

Mummsymags. Personality contest? You sure you’re responding to me? A Corbyn led Labour government would be disastrous for this country. Most of his own backbenchers don’t want him. He’s always been a Leaver anyway. He’s not to be trusted and like his pal, Dianne Abbott, is totally incompetent. He’s just a puppet of the far left.