Anarchy in the UK? When politicians ignore the electorate.

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List of Job Losses in the UK which can be attributed to the brexit vote.

Job losses are attributed to Brexit if they meet one or more of the following conditions:

1. The employer's business has been significantly affected by sterling's devaluation, either immediately through rises in the cost of imported inputs or later by inflation passed on by those who were so affected.

2. Government austerity cuts are attributed to Brexit since Britain voted to remain the EU, austerity would have been lifted instead of deepened.

3. Barring other obvious explanations businesses that were doing okay but experienced a significant slowdown after the Brexit vote are deemed to have been impacted by Brexit.

4. Businesses and other enterprises (e.g. EU regulatory authorities) that will be impacted by the imposition of trading or regulatory barriers (including the potential imposition of tariffs).

5. All jobs moved abroad are considered Brexit-related even if offshored outside the EU, since Brexit makes Britain a "third country" to the EU, just like India or China.

Other factors are occasionally cited but these are the main categories.

Job losses due to changes in the way business is conducted, such as those due to banking automation or to internet shopping, are usually excluded unless there is some compelling reason to regard Brexit is the real reason for cutting staff.

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Theresa May has yet again pandered to her nasty little group of brexitextremists at the expense of everyone else. She has promised to try to achieve something which she told us was impossible. The more she gives into these people the more extreme their demands become. When she is told by the EU that they are not willing to renegotiate, the rhetoric will be "it's all their fault - the EU is being nasty to us" and this will be repeated by the gutter press to stir up the violent thugs amongst their readers.

The politicians have ignored the sane majority of the electorate for far too long. The latest average of the six most recent polls shows REMAIN 8% ahead of leave. The electorate do not want any kind of brexit.

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John Simpson Tweeted:

When I was the BBC political editor, in the early 1980s, I was shocked by the ignorance of most MPs about the way the outside world worked. Judging from today's proceedings in Parliament, things don't seem to have changed much.

Jon Snow:

Brexit Secretary Steve Barclay admits on BBC Today that the Government has no ‘alternative arrangents’ for no border between Ireland and Northern Ireland: Welcome to yesterday and the day before that and before that and.....

Maizie d

"Still prepared to take a chance, POGS. I don't think that £10 billion bribes are a usual feature of a coalition agreement."
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Disinformation Mazie D it was not a 10 billion bribe it was 1 billion and you don't mention the bribe from Labour/ Gordon Brown when Labour wanted the DUP to back Labour as previously mentioned.

Hung Parliaments require back room shenanigans to obtain power that is why Proportional Representation will create more not less accusations of bribery, you have to offer something to get even a ' Confidence and Supply ' government through.
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"One of the most consistent analyses/theories of the exceptional turnout for the 2018 referendum is that voters felt that their vote counted. "

What 2018 referendum, do you mean the 2016 referendum ?
If so then yes any voter would expect their vote to count but that has proven to be a folly and the damage done to democracy and our parliamentarians reputation in particular is one that cannot be denied , only by those who refuse to accept the result of a democratic vote taken in 2016
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"And, while we're at it, I think that all bona fide political parties should be publicly funded, taking no 'donations' from anyone, and that MPs should be banned from working for anything apart from publicly funded institutions while they are an MP."
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Some of the biggest donors to Labour are the Unions . Do you propose the Unions should not fund Labour to be fair to all the other parties? If not , why not?

Re your point :-

" MPs should be banned from working for anything apart from publicly funded institutions while they are an MP."

How will that work for Labour / Coperative MP's who work on behalf of coperative societies? Like Union funding hould funding cease from the cooperative society.?

How does that work for Labour MP's who take funding from the Unions, Should the Unions cease funding Labour MP's.

It is said the biggest ' lobbying group ' in Parliament are the Trade Unions.

Varian

' her nasty little group of brexitextremists at the expense of everyone else"

" the gutter press to stir up the violent thugs amongst their readers. "

Why do you insist you are above name calling yet continue to do so, albeit the above is milder than of some of your comments.

Debate not hate you do your cause no good.

The politicians have ignored the sane majority of the electorate for too long.

And another one.

Brexit Secretary Steve Barclay admits on BBC Today that the Government has no ‘alternative arrangents’ for no border between Ireland and Northern Ireland: Welcome to yesterday and the day before that and before that and

It appears that the border dispute was a red herring all along, given Barnier revealed last week that should there be no deal there would be no hard border and it would be simple enough to employ electronic customs checks, as happens throughout Europe.

Barnier.....23rd January 2019. “We will have to find an operational way of carrying out checks and controls without putting back in place a border"

It does make you wonder what games the EU is playing.

I have been reading about electronic border controls in relation to the Irish border, and that it is not as simple as it appears. The system that the government was considering I believe is "max pac" which was previously rejected because of the huge annual implementation costs and fact that it is unsuitable for the Irish situation. There is some information on "The Conversation" about this and there have also been various newspapers articles.

Day6: ^It does make you wonder what games the EU is playing: Barnier.....23rd January 2019: “We will have to find an operational way of carrying out checks and controls without putting back in place a border.

Teresa May in June 2016:
/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-theresa-may-northern-ireland-customs-union-a8234766.html

It does make you wonder what games our PM is playing:

There isn’t a problem carrying out electronic customs checks between countries that are either EU or EFTA members because there are agreed rules. The UK does not want to be part of that it wants a different arrangement, the backstop is there in case rules cannot be agreed (they won’t be ).
In theory electronic checks could be carried out legitimate documented goods, but as soon as there is a tariff difference there will be illegal smuggling. We see it now with cigarettes and wine, personal use is OK but more than that is tax evasion and punishable.
Nobody wants to police the border in Ireland

Yes David on the World at One there was a Dutch man explaining how easy it all was but then the Brit pointed out, as you have done, that it was all fine and dandy with legal goods but not illegal ones. He also said there are 21 border crossings from the south to the north!

Yvette Cooper's amendment (drafted by Cooper) which would extend article 50 to the end of 2019 was defeated in the Commons last night.

Here is a clear example of one Labour MP who defied her constituents and let self interest dictate her actions as an MP. She wanted as a Remainer, (representing a constituency of 70% Leave voters,) to change the terms, to delay Brexit for yet another chance for a second referendum or the now failed Chukka Umunna's People's Vote campaign to take off.

Neither has happened and it now looks like the Remain challenge is dead in the water. All Remainer hijacking attempts have failed, Cooper failed and the Brady amendment was passed.

WTO is our default position, in law, should we not strike a favourable deal with the EU regarding the Irish border dispute. (Who wants to bet Brussels caves in. Our billions to their economy is at stake.)

For the first time in a long time it looks like we can go forward with Brexit and be sure of leaving the EU on March 29th.

Remainers have done all in their power to stop the democratic vote being acted upon and most Labour MPs have hoped a failed Brexit would mean a General Election was on the cards. Self interest and a desire to create obstacles for the government in trying to get Brexit withdrawal sorted out has left many Remain MPs (from all parties) with egg on their faces and hopefully on a list which will be of interest to their Leave constituents.

To their credit there is a list of Labour MPs who voted against Cooper's delaying tactics and to their shame the Tory MPs who crossed the floor to vote with Labour and Cooper and wrest power from their own leader and PM are also known. Where is their loyalty, to the party, the people and the UK?

Come the next general election I hope people know who they are voting for, and what their candidate stands for.

Remainer MPs have cheered on the EU throughout the negotiations, looking for the UK to fail. It is truly shameful.

Look at how few Remainer publications are reporting the egg on face defeats. The Guardian and the BBC (Brussels Broadcasting Corporation) are strangely quiet.

The feeling in the country is that we just have to get on with it, and now perhaps we can. The delaying tactics have been outed and dealt with. May can go to Brussels with the backing of parliament to sort out the backstop condition, or there is no deal.

There will be a lot of Remainer MPs seeking solace in their subsidised-by-the-taxpayer bars this week I suspect.

I bet a lot of the traitorous MPs will be creating a charm offensive now with their constituents. Schmoozing the people because they have been outed as siding with Brussels won't wash.

At least "Anarchy in the UK" can be shelved for now but it isn't over yet.

It's amazing how the media is reporting very little of this significant Brexit victory, isn't it?

Gosh Day6 how do you know so much about what is going on in people's minds? Do you have ESP or have you bugged the House?

Day6 (Who wants to bet Brussels caves in. Our billions to their economy is at stake.) Doesn't seem likely if you listen to BBC R4.

Loyalty to Political Party is ridiculous in this Brexit crisis. We need to rise above it and think of the Country.
Barclays is moving Billions to Ireland. Good on them.

Day6. You are over the top in your remainer campaign comments, several half hearted attempts have tried to gain momentum but none gained support. A second vote now seems to be a dead duck as well, in any case the likely result will be the same, remainers are not traitors they just have a different opinion to yours.

So it’s a choice between deal or no deal, if you look at the voting on Monday TM won because Tories voted with her Labour and others against, yet JC is in favor of a softer deal.
In 2 weeks when TM gets nothing from the EU, the voting will change with more Labour MPs changing, but that all depends on Tory/Labour negotiations. A majority of MPs want a deal just what that will mean we will see.

Beammeup I agree but I think they are worried about their jobs/promotion. I don't think they are examining the evidence and voting according to their conclusions. I wonder if any of them are going back to their constituents to see how people feel now that they know they can't have what was promised.

I voted Remain for many reasons, not just party political, and I agree Beammeup that loyalty to the Party should not be the main consideration now, but what is the least damaging for the country. I accept that others will not share my views, for their own, no doubt valid reasons, but I don't think it helps anyone's cause to refer to MPs who voted "the wrong way" as treacherous.

Why are the majority of the population, who want the UK to remain in the EU being totally ignored? Have we just been too polite or not made enough noise?

The lovely 700,000 people who marched peacefully in London have been given less credence than a group of a hundred or so right wing brexit thugs who attacked Anna Soubry.

Most MPs also know that we should remain in the EU. That would be the best way to have a prosperous and influential country, not a weak, snivelling little has-been, joke of the world country. Are they just afraid of the right-wing gutter press and the brexit bullies?

It is time the sane remainers were listened to. Revoke Article 50 now- or in a fortnight when TM brings her failed deal back to parliament.

Davidhs
remainers are not traitors, they just have different opinion to your
By the same token leavers aren't thick racist little englander violent thugs. they just have a different opinion to remainers

Of course, not all of those who still, in spite of all the evidence want the UK to leave the EU, are violent thugs, but why should the Tories get away with threatening us all that if we don't "deliver brexit", the violent thugs will cause civil unrest?

Exactly Petra !

Oh I think you have made enough noise Varian.....certainly on here, don’t worry about it.?

By the same token leavers aren't thick racist little englander violent thugs.

I'm afraid that some of them are, petra. Like the ones who harrassed Anna Soubry.

Leavers have associated themselves with some very unpleasant people.

certainly some of the rhetoric of remainers is violent.

violent: synonyms:
intense · extreme · strong · powerful · forceful · great · vehement · wild

However, I am not one of them and dislike all the name-calling and nastiness varian.
On behalf of decent remainers could I ask you to stop it please?