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Labour witch-hunt has started

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Anniebach Fri 08-Feb-19 10:21:50

Luciano Berger is facing a vote of no confidence by her local
Constituancy party because she has criticised Corbyn .

McDonald said she has not been targeted because of anti semetism but because she has refused to rule out quitting labour, if there was any elements of anti semetism in Labour the party would deal with it, full stop

Luciana is being supported by Yvette Cooper and Ed Miliband.

Who is next ?

Ilovecheese Sat 09-Feb-19 16:21:14

So, as far as I can tell:
Luciana Berger's local party put forward a vote of no confidence.
One view was that it was because she could not confirm that she would not leave the Labour Party to become part of another party.
Another view was that it was because she was critical of Jeremy Corbyn.

The no confidence motion has now been withdrawn after pressure from the central party, including Tom Watson and from Corbyn's office.

There are certainly divisions in the party but the idea that this was the start of some sort of witch hunt was
just an exaggeration.

Anniebach Sat 09-Feb-19 17:29:27

Tom Watson said a lot more than that, and do tell what Corbyn’s office said

Iam64 Sat 09-Feb-19 17:48:51

I've posted a brief summary from an article in today's Guardian, on the problems in the Wavetree constituency where the MP is Luciana Berger. (written by Nazia Parveen and Peter Walker) :-

- no confidence motion withdrawn and a meeting to discuss her future cancelled after it emerged one of her key local party opponents called her a "disruptive Zionist"

- the decision was made by the Liverpool Wavertree party after a day of considerable pressure from the central party and the Labour leader's office.

- Tom Watson wrote to Jennie Formby (general secretary of the LP) asking her to suspend Liverpool Wavertree party. He said "it is clear to me that Luciana Berger is being bullied. This behaviour by her local party is intolerable. The actions of her constituency are not only threatening to Luciana personally but are bringing our party into disrepute"

- Local party members said evidence of antisemitism had undermined what some viewed as legitimate criticism of Berger. One member said that Kenneth Campbell a local critic who wrote on facebook that she should be "exposed for the disruptive Zionist she is". .....

- It has since emerged that Campbell 80, who jointly tabled a second motion to oust Berger with his wife, Agnes, also shared a Facebook post that called the Jewish Labour MP Dame Margaret Hodge 'utterly shameless' and has written posts which allude to the media being controlled by "zionist masters".

The criticisms of Luciana Berger that seem to focus on concerns that "instead of fighting for a Labour government, our MP is continually using the media to criticise the man we all want to be our Prime Minister". That's what the motion said but it's been totally undermined by anti semitism and as Tom Watson states bullying of a sitting MP.

This as a time, when the country needs a strong opposition, when we are facing what seems to be the greatest challenge for our country since WW2

Anniebach Sat 09-Feb-19 18:05:46

Thank you Iam64, I doubt Formby will suspend Liverpool Wavetree party . Luciana is under attack from so many just because she is a Jew and speaks out against anti semetism

Anniebach Sun 10-Feb-19 11:28:26

So Formby claims she hasn’t the power to suspend the Liverpool Wavertree party , who has ?

I didn’t know Luciana was 8 months pregnant, it’s ok to bully a pregnant MP but so wrong a female MP has to turn up to vote in a wheelchair because she was pregnant

POGS Sun 10-Feb-19 12:23:03

trisher Fri 08-Feb-19 19:12:03

" I'm sure it has been posted many times on GN that MPs should represent the views of their constituents and not their own."
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This where the word hypocrisy creeps in again.

If a member like John Mann DOES represent the view of his ' constituency ' who voted by majority to ' Leave' the EU he is a traitor for doing so.

Then there are the times when posters / commentators say ' MP's should vote with their CONSCIENCE ' .

It seems to me that MP's are between a rock and a hard place as the fickle nature of politics leaves only one conclusion :-

MP's are right when they agree with someone's view/political agenda but wrong if they don't .

POGS Sun 10-Feb-19 13:21:07

The OP title 'Labour witch-hunt has started ' is simply wrong and I think the OP poster will have no problem in my pointing that out.

The OP should read ' Labour witch - hunt Continues '.

The Witch - Hunt started when the Jeremy for Leader / Momentum groups formed and Corbyn has done nothing to quell the appetite for deselection calls that took a hold back in 2015. Corbyn encourages it as do his Inner Circle and the Labour Party Management , Structures that are now in the grip of Momentum and far left activists both old and new.

Over the years so much a abusive behaviour toward Labour MP's, Labour Councillors , Labour Party back office staff in constituencies have been recorded and continually denied as having taken place by Momentum / Corbyn followers.

So many threads , so many years later we are talking of the same things but the gut feelings/ the concern Labour could split / the numerous accounts of factual evidence of harassment have all proved they did indeed have a sound basis and now in 2019 the gut feelings of what was happening back in 2015 have turned out to be fact.

Oldwoman70 Sun 10-Feb-19 13:37:07

When Corbyn was a relatively unknown back bencher he often disagreed with the leadership - that was called being principled. Those disagreeing with him now he is leader are considered disloyal and traitors.

Anniebach Sun 10-Feb-19 13:52:18

You are right POGS I should have said continues not started. ,

my annual subscription is due this month and I am so undecided , I want to leave the Corbyn-Momentum-McClusky party but there are MP’s I respect holding on and they are abused daily .

Urmstongran Sun 10-Feb-19 17:38:29

So who’s next in the firing line from Labour?

JC has promoted highest, of the few females in his shadow cabinet, a woman he used to have sex with and who is not – through no fault of her own – up to this demanding job.

While Diane Abbott may accuse Question Time of legitimising the abuse she has received since last appearing on it, Labour women who have resisted the Corbyn cult, such as Jess Phillips, have admitted that the abuse they get from their alleged allies is far worse than it has ever been from their Conservative opponents. Angela Eagle was shocked to get homophobic hatred from Corbynites.

Maybe Jess or Angela soon? Awful to think they have to watch their backs.

lemongrove Sun 10-Feb-19 17:44:48

After the revelations in a newspaper today ( hatchet job on Corbyn ) running to 20 pages apparently about Corbyn from ex wives ( eating beans on toast and singing IRA songs etc grin it may be him watching his own back!

lemongrove Sun 10-Feb-19 17:45:50

Not read it, but heard about it on Andrew Marr this morning.

Anniebach Sun 10-Feb-19 17:55:51

lemon, it will be dismissed as Tory press lies

lemongrove Sun 10-Feb-19 17:59:51

Are the ex wives members of the Tory press?
Am waiting for Corbyn fans to say so.?

Anniebach Sun 10-Feb-19 18:03:00

There a new book out ?

trisher Sun 10-Feb-19 18:07:42

Who hasn't eaten beans on toast and at least listened to (if not joined in) IRA songs -If you have listened to The Chieftans- The Foggy Dew etc or even Leonard Cohen- Kevin Barry well you have!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ4INuSYr28

lemongrove Sun 10-Feb-19 18:40:19

Most of us don’t have our mates round and sit on the floor and sing them though trisher ..... and remember what Dianne Abbott said at that time, that any enemy of The UK( the IRA) was a friend.

Anniebach Sun 10-Feb-19 18:41:05

So just coincidence and nothing to do with his defence and support for the IRA !

Anniebach Sun 10-Feb-19 18:42:54

Aww, Diane was loved up ?

lemongrove Sun 10-Feb-19 18:44:00

......and now she has changed her views, like her hairstlyle,
Annie ?

trisher Sun 10-Feb-19 18:46:51

Listen to Kevin Barry and then wonder about the UK's responsibility for the decades of unrest that followed his death. And actually I used to sing lots of songs sitting in pubs and on the floor in people's houses in the 60s and 70s. Did none of you belong to Folk clubs?
And there's nothing like a rousing rebel song!

lemongrove Sun 10-Feb-19 18:53:49

It doesn’t surprise me in the least trisher that you spent a lot of your time lambasting the UK in speech and song.
Folk clubs? No thanks.

lemongrove Sun 10-Feb-19 18:54:32

Most rebels grow up though.

trisher Sun 10-Feb-19 19:08:23

Oh lemon such a rich culture and brilliant heritage. You must have sung "The Irish Rover"everybody did. And songs like "She walked through the Fair" and The Great Silkie of Skule Skerrie. Great times sorry you missed them.

petra Sun 10-Feb-19 19:20:03

I wish I hadn't read that Dianne Abbotts sexual fantasy was to be man handled by her lover (Corbyn)...... a bearded fenian.
Now I can't un-see them ?‍♀️