Breakaway Labour MP’s

7 ex back bench MP’s are responsible for the fall in the vote for Corbyn ? Surely not, he has thousands of supporters who adore him.

Mycatisahacker so the labour membership who elected Corbyn as leader are responsible for the reported fall in the polls and not the 7 MPs who have chosen to ignore the people who elected them and the policies they stood on and become Independents? Isn't that a bit like blaming Red Riding Hood when the wolf eats her grandma?

Why because he seemed genuinely ashamed and worried and sad about loosing 7 good labour MPs some who had been in the party for 20 years?

Is he too nice for you? Too worried and concerned about anti senitism and bullying?

Tom Watson.

No thanks .

Time for Tom watson and Yvette Cooper to either go join the rebel’s or stsrtvto fught gor Labour.

Latest pole today labour sky data pole suggesting election tomorrow labour would get 26%.

So well done Corbyns groupies you and your supporters have put labour into the wilderness yet again just like the 80s with militant.

Tories rum rampant whole the keader of militant tendancy is back in the party.

Shame on you Shame on you.

I expect you are middle class socialists though so it’s all a game to you

POGS, Day6 and lemon, I enjoy your posts. thank you

Labour members may love Corbyn but can’t think many Labour voters do when asked about it on the doorstep outside of London.

PECS what on earth are you on about....?
Nobody accused you of being anti-semitic, I have no idea if you are or not.
Rowantree I haven’t read many posts from you on GN ( do you post much?) so don’t know your views on racism.

Yes, I was going for cliches in a big way ? and why not.

Any minute now I expect arch Remainer Tony Blair to arrive and decide to lead this group.

Calling themselves Independent is a bit deceitful too. The last thing any of them wants is for the UK to be independent from the EU and Brussels. They are all reneging on the result of the referendum.

The talk at the minute is about the 7 Labour MP's who have resigned from the Labour Party.

There are calls for them to have the guts to hold bi-elections and stand as Independents.

There are other MP's currently sitting in Parliament who have either ' Resigned ' from their party,' been ' Expelled ' from their party or ' Resigned the Whip ' from their party should they also be told alongside the 7 to stand as INDEPENDENTS and hold bi - elections in their constituencies too?

Unless they are temporary ' removal of the whip ' awaiting outcomes of wrong doing why not?

Well as I'm not in Islington so I must be in a "hot-bed of left wing activists" because Corbyn has considerable support around here. What I would say is this is a big working class area and Corbyn has appealed to those people
I was thinking about selling council houses and it occurred to me that that action must have seriously cut council income as there are few tenants paying rent now. The money is going to individuals and not into the council coffers. Perhaps if we had more council houses and more income from rents the roads would be in better repair!

PECS Good post.

PECS Tue 19-Feb-19 15:51:07

' lemongrove I find your accusation that supporters of JC are all anti Semetic as 8slightly hysterical and typical of the right of centre views espoused by many hard core tories. Though of course right wingers are not exactly known for their positive attitudes to minority groups.'

Um PECS is your post not a tad hypocritical?

Have you not done the exact same as the person you accuse?

We can stop using that word - ‘racism’

A female Labour MP has tweeted.-

‘ i am sorry they left over a misunderstanding ‘

Denial perhaps ?

Day6

I agree with you there. In my view if you resign the party a by election should always be triggered because the mandate you were elected on might change. That’s why MP of any party.

andy

You may be right but the concequences of s no deal Brexit may equally be catastrophic in the short term. No one knows

Well, lemongrove, you really are going for the anti-Corbyn cliches in a big way, are you not?
I live in Croydon, not Islington, my bed is cool despite all the reds in it (not under, you understand because for some reason I thought that red always was the colour of the Labour party, so hey, I plead guilty to that one).
Finally, you should know by now my views on racism. If you don't, I suggest you read some of my previous posts.

Hello all, what a glorious sunny day, things are sprouting.

I am so glad the 7 have all gone off to play together and do their own thing.

I am so excited because no deal Brexit is coming and it is the only delivery of what we, the majority of voters voted for.

I love the word majority and democracy, nice ring to it together.

Such good times coming, all will be well

Best wishes happy posters.

Honda stated that they are not leaving because of Brexit, so there

Frank Field is now independent

Luciana has been awarded a vote of no confidence in her constituency

Labour candidates voted into power (as MPs) should not retain that authority or title if they quit their party is all I am saying. It doesn't matter which party they quit or why they quit.

It is up to their constituents now if they retain the authority of MP.

If their constituents voted Leave in the referendum they are unlikely to support a group who want the UK to remain tied to Brussels.

I heard Dianne Abbott interviewed just before she was indisposed last general election and she couldn’t tell the commentator when the franchises ended or what it would cost to buy them back. Her reply was ‘it must be cheaper’ yes I know it’s dianne but really??

Look there are good policies on both sides.

But the polarisation of hard left and it’s pokitics of hate the rich blah blah blah verses the far right and it’s politics of we hate Europe and sod the poor isn’t healthy.

We need a middle ground.

Btw Tony Blair’s government rebuilt all the crumbling schools in my area of worsestershire with PFIs for which we are eternally grateful.

Never heard racism was democracy before .

Anyway Corbyn has said he is going to change the lives of millions

the (new) group are anti-democratic in that they won’t accept the referendum result, they won’t go back to their constituencies and give them the choice as to whether they want them or not as independent MPs and they won’t declare who is funding them

Yes, this disturbs me too Maryeliza54
It's no secret I voted Leave but this is a party group of those who want a second referendum and want to remain in the EU. If Soubry and co from the Conservative party resign and join them it will be no loss.

I do feel they should accept that their constituents may no longer want them to represent them and they should accept that by elections will take place.

I am no Corbyn supporter, but the original defectors WERE Labour MPs. They either stand with the party or accept their days in politics are over. I feel nothing but scorn for those Tory MPs who are doing their best to keep us tied to the EU. They too have contempt for the leadership of their party. If MPs undermine their parties they do deserve to be outed, and those parties can stand or fall according to the electorate.

I appreciate they have left the Labour party as a matter of principle but they should also be divested of their political standing and authority too, for the sake of democracy and their constituents.

lemongrove I find your accusation that supporters of JC are all anti Semetic as 8slightly hysterical and typical of the right of centre views espoused by many hard core tories. Though of course right wingers are not exactly known for their positive attitudes to minority groups.
I am on the left within the Labour attitudes and see JCs & L abours manifesto as more in line with the kind of country I want to live in. I do not support his approach to Europe and he has not been the strong leader I would prefer. I am not nor ever have been anti- Semetic.