We BREXIT this month (hopefully) ?

good news all round I say, total Brexit as voted by the majority of voters

not Treason Mayhems catastrophic deal, meaning remain

liar traitor

I too think the awful deal will get trounced on Tuesday andyC good job leaving without a deal is still the default legal position. In a new poll out today (but who trusts those anyway) the public are swinging round to the idea of a no deal. But are the MP’s listening? Nope.

Voters did not vote for no deal - why all this backtracking? Leave campaign in their official literature said we would not leave before a deal was in place. Maybe leavers now think there should be a second referendum? No, thought not, even though the conditions are now different from what was sold to us in 2016.

leave means leave.
I find that very simple to understand

easy

not the lying remain deal from Treason Mayhem

you have to be simple to believe blatant lies

true

I must be dim then. Not sure how I ever got into the local grammar suzied !!
Actually I voted to Leave. Not necessarily for a deal.
Big difference.

But we were told there would be a great one.... must have been a lie then?

I am not specifically bothered, however there are rallies and marches taking place particularly by those who see the outsourcing of NHS services to.(often) the cheapest bidder with little regard to standard of service or care provision.

My apologies, Joelsnan. I forgot, when making my response that the NHS is well on its way to being privatised. I was thinking purely in terms of goods rather than services.

The NHS unable to compete because their staff have better ts&cs of those who replace them.

Do I detect a left-leaning tone in your concerns?

(I don't mean that in any degrogatory way at all, though I realise that on Gnet calling someone a 'leftie' is somehow held to be the ultimate insult and indisputable proof that the person who holds any leftish wing views has no arguments worth considering)

oh yes, we were told no-one in their right mind would even consider getting out of Single Market and Customs Union. that we would have a fabulous Deal very quickly, that we held all the cards, that it would be the simplest deal ever- Farage told us we would be rich and happy and do very well- just like Norway and Switzerland, and on, and on, and on.

We were told not a single job would be lost, and that things would get cheaper and cheaper- and on, and on, and on.

We were told the NHS would be saved, with massive sums of money too - hmmm

The proof is in the pudding for sure. No-one talked about shortages of life savings medicines and cancer treatment- did they?

jura2 getting het up isn’t good for your blood pressure! As Speaker Bercow might say ‘calm yourself!’
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patronising or what Urmstrong

Lucky me, I was born with good genes and have perfect blood pressure- I can take a bit of a rise- and in this context, it is so apt- fine.

So, Urmstongran, instead of being patronising- take my points, on by one, and explain how they are not the truth.

All those people now baying for no deal and who say its what they voted for, must be lying or deluded because thats was not what we were told at the time. OK if you now, knowing all the details, want a no deal then lets have another vote , as the details and knowledge have changed. Theres nothing undemocratic about that. Now we have the Tory party desperately trying to hold themselves together and to hell with the country.

The Financial Times has warned that- " The nightmare of a no-deal Brexit looms and must be prevented. Fanatics seek to impose a highly disruptive experiment on their fellow citizens"

www.ft.com/content/e6d3cb96-fe1d-11e8-ac00-57a2a826423e

Oh ladies!
C’mon - what’s wrong with a tiny bit of lighthearted banter?
This is after all my sharing of a GOOD NEWS thread!

And no, as I’ve explained before on a couple of occasions, I am not getting drawn into debate on this (happier if we can let it be) thread!

Sorry, I’m not being patronising or disrespectful by the way.

All the nightmare scenarios are in the main economy based. Those squeeling loudest are the ones making 'loads o money' exploiting the workers if all EU nations, particularily those in the Eastern bloc. And politicians frightened that they will have to prove their worth. They drop in the odd health care scare to keep the nation anxious. 1984 and Animal farm anyone?

Jura
Re all your unanwered points.
Firstly we have not left yet and secondly lets wait two years (as we have had to do since the referendum) and have the same questions then we will know.

urmston hello keep happy, 19 days to go till out of evil EU

I am so elated I might just to a handstand on my coffee table

Boy andy you still think that??? enjoy now...

Analogy:
Have any of you remainers had a difficult divorce? I had an abusive violent husband. I finally plucked up courage (after a long marriage) to leave. He was so incensed by the fact that I did it that he did everything he could to confound the settlement. Ten years later still not sorted we went back to court. The judge threatened him with jail if he didn't pay up. I always felt he was still controlling my life during this period.
My daughter is basically doing a rerun of my scenario at the moment.
There were good points to both marriages, the divorce process was an absolute nightmare, we were in a comfortable financial pisition. I became jobless and homeless, sleeping on my sisters couch. However I built myself back up and since then have had a fabulous life, freedom and career. This is why I am not fearful of Brexit. The world will still turn UK will not be engulfed by Hades. We should know that for every winter spring follows, new shoots, new opportunities, we have to work at it but we will have the satisfaction if doing it.

Be very careful andyC we don’t want you falling off any edge ....
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You make me giggle just at the thought of you doing handstands on your coffee table!

Yes, let’s stay happy. I am thank you and the sun is shining too.

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None of us know how things will pan out. I like to think better brains than mine are on the case. In the meantime I remain hopelessly optimistic.

What an uplifting post Joelsnan that’s the spirit! Take another recommend woman ??