Shemima Begum

The thing we must all remember is that this young woman hates us and all we stand for.

What makes me particularly angry is the fact that although she was born here, her parents weren't. They were permitted to settle here and make use of our free healthcare, education etc for their children who were born here, and this is how one of them repays us.

SB should be grateful to be living here with unlimited opportunities to get on in life, but instead she rejected all that and joined a vile terrorist organisation which wish us in the West harm.

Those in favour of unlimited immigration should remember that because of course SB is not the only one to have chosen the path she did.
Sickening.

I do not even apologise I read the DM because DH believes that one should always read two newspapers, one that one agrees with and another that puts the other side. Our other newspaper used to be the The Independent and is now the i. We can also, at times be found reading The Guardian and the Daily Telegraph (a good read on a Saturday). Frankly the DM is much better read than the Guardian. The DM certainly has much better Medical and Personal Finance sections. the Daily Telegraph is too aspirational and the Guardian gives one moral indigestion it is so self righteous.

I couldn't give a tinkers cuss what happens to or about stateless citizens

You also appear to not give a toss about the country they are dumped/abandoned in

Why should I be, Notanan ? It's not my problem.

Well said,Jennifer Eccles.

EV you said your GC was in the armed forces, would you be happy for him to be deployed to secure the camps in Syria?

I wouldn't be happy for our AC to have to send his men out on patrol in those circumstances. As we know he would be right beside them, as he has never asked his men to do anything he hasn't/would not do.

It is not as easy as "leaving them there"

M0nica I also read the DM online and find it has a broader range of news and views than the Guardian etc. Which I often buy.
I do skip all the celeb. news though.

I do read the DM "Weekender" magazine as MrGG13 buys the DM on a Saturday for the magazine.

When we go out for breakfast/brunch on a Sunday they always have a variety of newspapers and I am always astonished at how the same story can be reported so differently in each publication. I really do not know why this surprises me even now, as I have been saying the same thing for the last 40+ years????

GrannyGravy, my GS is a sergeant and stationed at Wiltshire and will only say where he's going but never more than that so who knows what his duties might be ?

I understand that EV, we are the same, and most of the time we do not know where AC has been and what he has done.

I asked the question as you seemed to imply that these people were “not your problem”, are you happy for them to be your GSs problem?

AC is an officer not s Sgt.

Judt reread my last post, I deleted not s sgt before posting, obviously did not work. apologies EV

The thing we must all remember is that this young woman hates us and all we stand for.
JenniferEccles Do you not think, then, that making her stateless will make her even more angry and therefore a dangerous tool in the wrong hands?

Allowing her to come back, making her face justice followed by a rehabilitation programme could change her - or at least she could be watched in future.

So are we at war with Iraq and Afghanistan?

For those with a conscience a petition to bring this young woman home is taking off Please sign www.change.org/p/sajid-javid-bring-shamima-begum-to-justice-bring-her-home?signed=true
Nearly 15000 signatures already. There are enough of us who care.

They have some way to go yet trisher. The petition to ban all ISIS members from returning to the UK is currently at 579,852 and is due to be debated in parliament on 18th March.

Technically I believe we were when we went into Iraq (Tony Blairs lies re WMD) in Afghanistan we were supporting the government against the Taliban.

I am more than happy to be corrected by someone if I have got the above wrong.

GrannyGravy, my GS has no other choice than to take his orders from above whatever they might be and if he had the mindset that you're suggesting he should have, then there's no place in the armed forces for him. They have to be emotionally detached from some of their duties as you should appreciate.

Chewbacca maybe there is but almost 19000 signatures in 7 hours is quite good going!

We went into Afghanistan to support the Americans GG13

EV I know what your GS has to do.

My question was to you, how do you / would you feel if our government acted like you suggested i.e. " leave those people there".

As part of NATO inevitably our armed forces would be deployed to where "they are".

Yes trisher, but "the collective we" were fighting the taliban not the Afghani people.

As I've already said, Abu hamza's son is also pleading to return to the UK. So allow SB back and they have to also allow Mustafa and those like him who were teens when they left this country. Are you up for that too ?

SB has already stated that she'd abide by " some " of our rules but---------what of those she won't ?

GrannyGravy, they're not our problem. How they live is up to them. What our and other servicemen/women work hard at is leaving a peaceful environment for them all.
Money should be directed to the citizens to help rebuild that country.

We can't take in displaced victims of war------we as a country can't manage our own.

EV whilst my "knee jerk" reaction is "stuff them", my realistic head pops up.

"These people" are UK citizens and should be repatriated and go through the UK juridical system.