Shemima Begum

Notanan, I assume that those 400 are all British born, hence why they remain in this country-----under surveillance, tagged or in prison.
When you have 4,500 terrorist-related arrests since 9/11 I think it's justifiable that anyone whose intent it is to betray this country like the SB's of this world don't deserve the privilege of belonging anywhere.

My family are more valuable than her ! They saw the aftermath of what SB cheered about.

Monica, my family were traumatised after seeing what they saw in the foyer of the Manchester arena !!

While the world ( or at least the UK ) obsesses about SB, the refugee crisis and the forgotten victims grow in number.

Unforgiveable. The same as what your feelings would be if it happened to you. Pity for people like SB makes me heartily sick.

I don't feel pity - but we can't just leave a British citizen without dual nationality stateless, it is against international law.

Are /Arnt there grounds /reasons/situations for stripping a person of their nationality ?

Citizenship

EllenVannin* you have no idea what my background is or what I have experienced in life. I can well understand that your family were traumatised by the Manchester Arena bombing, people were also traumatised by the IRA bombings and other terrorist acts all round the world.

The best way to deal with these horrors is to find a way through them to solutions like the Peace and Justice tribunals in South Africa and the Good Friday Agreement in Ireland, neither of them perfect but both of them going a long way to finding peaceable solutions to violent conflicts. This is what we need to do here.

What is needed is an orchestrated international response to this refugee crisis. Many of those out in the desert come from countries in the immediate area; Syria, Iran, Iraq. Their return could be linked to aid and education. Those remaining can and should be returned to their countries of origin for processing under their penal codes.

One should never underestimate the effect of one grand gesture and getting SB back and fairly treated could do far more peace and justice than 20 mobs baying for vengeance.

There are, of course, but leaving a person stateless is not lawful.
If they are citizen of another country it is lawful and also if they are eligible to apply for citizenship of another country it is also possible to do so.

Letting SB back would just show what a soft touch Britain is. Always the same with some people wanting to help the perpetrators and forgetting the innocent victims of crime.

Jalima I couldn't give a tinkers cuss what happens to or about stateless citizens. It's not against the law in this country to strip a person of citizenship who has no other nationality. Theresa May made this last minute addition when she was Home Secretary which is what has been acted upon.

Yes, Nicenanny, isn't it always the same ?

It's an insult to my GS who went to Afghanistan and Iraq to fight for our freedom.

EV, our AC is in the armed forces and has been for 28 years, he would rather these terrorists/Jihadis/Daesh sympathisers come back to a UK facility.

They could be interviewed at length, which could be helpful (assuming they tell the truth) to security services.

I wouldn't fly tip my rubbish and the more I think about this problem the UK is "fly-tipping" human beings and no matter what they have done or seen surely that is not an action of a civilised society.

" our freedom" ???

Yes-----I can just see her on the front of a magazine posing as the ISIS poster girl that she admits to being in their own recruitment magazine------how proud she must feel !!

She still hasn't offered any apology for the millions of Iraqi's and Syrians who were killed by IS. Charming woman---not.

Yes Lily, our freedom.

What proof do we have that "de-radicalisation" works? Those who left European countries to fight for Isis have been told to return home and continue the fight any way they can.

A friend has told me she has seen a film of a female Isis supporter who states the enslavement and rape of women and child prisoners is OK because they are the property of the captors. In the film she apparently also says that the fight will continue and Isis enemies will be knee deep in blood.

How is your Grandson in Iraq and Afghan defending " our freedom" Are/were we at war with these countries, I must have missed that bit.

Beckett, your chum has been reading The Mail.

Beckett I have read of this also, but if we leave them where they are the hatred towards all none Daesh will fester and grow as will the followers who will commit atrocities in the name of those abandoned.

There is no unilateral solution to this, but Governments from all over the world need to get together and see if they can come up with something, surely anything is better than what is happening in Syria now?

Lily65 I do not read the Mail

Lily65 My friend would be most offended to be accused of reading the Mail !! - I think she said she saw it on some social media site

Apologies, I am a closet Mail glancer.

Always the same with some people wanting to help the perpetrators and forgetting the innocent victims of crime.
Yes, Nicenanny, isn't it always the same ?

Those remarks are an insult to people who are very concerned about the victims, the refugees of these wars and crises, about the rehabilitation of those servicemen who went, the families of those who lost their lives there.

No-one has forgotten them by questioning the legality of what is happening to these women and their young children and what is the best course of action now for all of us for our future security.