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Why am I so vehement about Remaining- Google Michael Heseltine's speech at the march. He put so eloquently how the EU has forged bonds for peace. Add that I want my children and my grandchildren to feel fully part of something greater and larger than our small country, and be able to live and work where they choose. Then add that I actually care about countries that are poorer than us and I know the benefits, like the tunnels in Madeira that the EU has funded. And lastly that I recognise the money the EU has channelled into our Arts and Heritage and you just about have everything. There are also the very real fears I have about Leave and the results, but I suppose that is a seperate post.

jalima
Thank you.

Somebody told me their sister ( an ESOL teacher) would be out of a job because " they are all going back"

Don't try and weasel your way out of the immigration/race issue because it was a factor in how some people voted.

This is from Show Racism the Red Card. ( a reputable organisation)

This general rise in racism towards immigrants increased considerably with the Brexit campaign vote, leading to a rise in racism in the weeks after the vote, in many areas throughout the UK by over 200%. We received numerous calls with regards to Black British people being told to “go back home”.

btw Michael Heseltine was amazing.

Thanks too Jalima. My remain-voting friends also distance themselves from the abusive ones, and there are many of them. They started the day of the referendum result and haven't given up in their hatred of Leavers or labeling them all sorts of foul things.

Lily continues to clutch at the racist straw, I see.

If you really believe noone in this sceptered Isle is racist you have tunnel vision. You may not have experienced it, and may not know anyone who has, but it’s out there.

Thank you for your balanced reply Jalima ??

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This should raise a chuckle or two/

Day 6....bore off. I am not clutching a straw. Some people voted to end the free movement of people. Unfortunately they didn't realise that only meant European people.

trisher
Thank you for your post.
I think there are probably very many at the bottom of the pile in Europe who do not concur wholeheartedly with Hestletine. I dont know how he can claim 70 years of peace is purely the result of the EU. what about the rest of the world? have other areas of previous unrest been quelled by forming federations and melding into one supernation? No.
As can be shown unrest flares from either simmering unrest, feeling of injustice, cultural or religious differences.
Whilst the common market enabled post war growth and rebuilding by trading cooperation, since Maastricht the ideology has changed, poorer countries admitted and enslaved by the now more powerful north european countries. Their workers exploited and their governments puppets to the decision makers who graciously enable infrastrucure grants which go into factories to make and roads to transport the cheap goods to the dominant nations to sell for excess profit.
The problem is the workers are 'cottoning on' and beginning to realise the exploitation that is taking place and just exactly as I mentioned in a previous post Heseltine named these workers concerned for their futures as 'left wing hooligans'. Why are these so called lefties arising throughout the EU? Do happy communities start uprisings?
The signs of unrest are riven through the EU for those who look. For those who see utopia and visions of happy work and life somewhere within the EU, look at the unemployment rates especially youth unemployment. French youth are anticipated to be 60% poorer than their parents, UK youth 30% poorer. Apart from retirees, I wonder how many Brits work in the EU especially in manual or unskilled jobs. Our high skilled workers find work throughout the world and are not dependant on the EU for employment. Travel to almost any destination in the world and you will find a Brit. Our skills, expertise and products are held in high regard we need to exploit these markets on our terms. Additionally, there is little we purchase from the EU that cannot be sourced elsewhere and likely cheaper.

Joelsnan, where do you get all this stuff from?

MaizieD
Research...try it

Of course Brits work elsewhere but they often only do so because they have completed a lengthy application or are there by invitation because they have a specific skill. And just because they work elsewhere that is no reason to restrict their movement within Europe.
There is actually a significant rise of right wing organisations in some EU countries so your 'lefties' accusations are questionable.
As for the positions of workers in the EU they will continue to have the protection of EU law and the Human Rights act, something Britih workers will soon lose.

MaizieD
ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/9628005/3-01032019-BP-EN.pdf/fdee8c71-7b1a-411a-86fa-da4af63710e1

MaizieD
www.statista.com/statistics/266228/youth-unemployment-rate-in-eu-countries/

The Employment rates in the U.K. are not measured in the same way in all EU countries. Students not counted as unemployed in U.K. unlike in other countries. You’ve only got to work for 1 hr a week to count as employed in the U.K. what does it really matter to Brexit supporters how many are employed in different countries anyway? As long as our figures are nicely massaged. Have a look at the productivity figures next- we’re near the bottom.

trisher
I think you will find EU employment law was a direct import of the original UK employment law which was adopted as the worldwide standard on which other countries base their own employment laws.
I doubt very much as a world standard, UK emp. law will diminish. Only a foolish(er) government would diminish employment law at a time when they will require worker cooperation to grow the economy. Check other EU countries for the levels of adoption of employment protections.

I stopped looking at our employment figures some time ago when I found out 1 hour of work was conssidered as employed. Lies, damned lies and statistics.

crystaltipps
The statistics shown are the EU statistics. I would imagine the data collection criteria would be the same or the published statistics would be rubbish...or are the EU bods publishing rubbish statistics?

EU productivity:
ec.europa.eu/eurostat/tgm/mapToolClosed.do?tab=map&init=1&plugin=1&language=en&pcode=tesem160&toolbox=types

The Human Rights Bill is under threat and will be repealed if Brexit goes through. It was first proposed in 1950 so outdates much legislation in the UK. More here
www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/human-rights-act-factcheck

Ex Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab has been an outspoken critic of the Human Rights Act, the piece of legislation which embeds international human rights protections as part of our laws.

In his previous role as Justice Minister, he masterminded plans to replace the act, claiming he was worried about the sovereignty of British parliament and judges, as well as how rights could be expanded.

He also added that he believed the original Human Rights Act was “rushed” and “flawed”.

People like him are dangerous. Thank God that our country is still a member of the European Union.

According to the Office for National Statistics, annual growth in economic output per hour of work slumped to 0.2% in the three months to September, down from 1.6% in the second quarter and marking the weakest period since the third quarter of 2016.

Trisher
The UK government has wanted to amend the EU bill of Human Rights since the days of Abu Hamsa and TM's inability to deal with this person as the country wished. As this was not to be, the intention became The creation of a UK relevant Bill of Rights, which would encapsulate the best of EU law and UK specific requirements. If this is developed by the people, for the people, what is the problem? We already have strong laws on discrimination, employment, health and safety.

Whilst the common market enabled post war growth and rebuilding by trading cooperation, since Maastricht the ideology has changed, poorer countries admitted and enslaved by the now more powerful north european countries. Their workers exploited and their governments puppets to the decision makers who graciously enable infrastrucure grants which go into factories to make and roads to transport the cheap goods to the dominant nations to sell for excess profit.

Not the statistics, Joelsnan. This stuff