Good News about Brexit! ✅

Well, well.
MP’s have defeated ALL of the 8 options put forward.
Nothing won.
They have failed to find a way through the impasse!

They've another day to go, Monday.

As I'm reading commentators,
May will try to bring her WA again, probably Friday.
Bercow may not allow it if it hasn't substantially changed.

If it's allowed it's likely to be defeated as, even though some ERGs have said they'll support it (in the hopes that May will go and they can get a more brexity PM) it looks at the ,moment as though the DUP will still oppose, as will some of the ERGs
If WA not put, or falls, the Indicative votes come back on Monday. They will probably be based on the 4 which got the most ayes

This is not 'my opinion', this is what I'm picking up from other commentators. It seems plausible.

No Deal seems to be definitely off the table...

P.S The good news...

We're definitely not leaving the EU on Friday...

As public money was used to 'buy' the support of the DUP, do you think May has been short-changed?

The EU doesn’t want a long extension. They don’t want flooding with MEP’s who will be determined to argy bargy their sittings.

I’m with Arlene Foster - there’s a tiny space for wriggling on TM’s deal. If there’s a tweak, Speaker Bercow will allow it.

There’s hope yet!

Public money was used in 2016 to post a government leaflet promoting Remain in every letterbox in the land. Pax.

Confirmatory referendum looking like a possibility as most popular of all the options.
Is AC celebrating the fact that we definitely do not leave the EU tomorrow ?

DUP , bastards.Why on earth did she get into bed with them>..........oh hang on

MP’s find it easy to say what they don’t want but find it’s hard to agree on a plan that they do want. Parliament have rejected every single Brexit plan! And they were presented with 8 of them.

I don't think that the apparently £9 million spent on the government information leaflets pre referendum is quite comparable to the £100,000 x £100,00 million spent on the DUP since 2017

Frankly, my dears, It's all about men.
Posturing, locking horns, shouting.
Testosterone levels must have been off the scale every day that they have 'sat'.
As for Bercow, I don't like the man but he's right to insist that the sacrificial lamb cannot be accepted unless, by a miracle, it transmogrifies into a wolf.
Now there's a challenge.

Andy is a bit quiet, is he taking his champagne out of the fridge do you think?

The Remain side had the advantage of having the government machine – and £9.3 million of public funds on clear campaign literature – on its side. If the referendum was unbalanced, the advantage was with Remain – and yet it still lost.

Ah yes, but how big does a tweak have to be to constitute the 'significant change' required?

Yup urmstongran you are right about the initial possible advantage, but the arrogant fool Cameron was so convinced that it would go his way that he did not set it up properly with minimum turn out/minimum majority. I think both sides of this miserable, unnecessary debacle have to blame that bloody idiot who then walked away, whistling

No deal is off the table, eventually MPs will realize the the backstop deal is the best available ( except remainers). Those that want a softer deal can have it within TMs deal the UK will not have to invoke every aspect, the backstop is a last resort.

Now that TM has agreed to hand over the next round of negotiations to a new leader agreement should be much easier to achieve. But don’t expect the coming round of trade agreements to be quick or easy the regulations are going to be strict to prevent UK getting any trade advantage over the EU.

The Leave campaign has plenty of dodgy money from its billionaire tax avoiding supporters, but no need to bang that old drum- some of it is going through the courts. If Mays deal goes through, it won’t please many leavers or remainers so seems like 3 years waste of time, not to mention money,to many.

It’s a compromise deal *crystaltipps’. You’re not happy with it and neither am I. Clever wonks describe it as 60% Leave and 40% Remain. Maybe that pretty much reflects the result of the referendum.

I think if it doesn’t pass TM will call a GE.

Get ready folks.
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GillT, you only have to look at footage of the day after the referendum to see nobody had a clue what to do.

Cameron caused this.

Johnson obviously didn't want the poisoned chalice of leadership at the time and Cameron and Gisela Stuart just legged it.....

Gisela is Labour.
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She stepped down as an MP at the 2017 GE though.
I liked her political view very much.

When she stood down she said

“..the EU referendum was an “abuse of democratic process” and said she would rather it had never been called. In response to the question if, with the benefit of hindsight, she now thought that David Cameron should have called the referendum, she said, “No. The way he called that referendum was an abuse of democratic processes. It really was.

I’ve never gone through a voting process where the losers demand of the winners that they explain themselves. This is what happened with the referendum, because you had a binary question.”

Gisela Stuart was perfectly happy to actively participate in that 'abuse of the democratic process' though.

Talk of money wasting- why is the government paying for tv radio and newspaper ads for people to get information about leaving the EU ? WHEN THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE???

Whoever next drinks from the poisoned chalice will need the skin of a rhinocerous and the brains of every noted economist since time began.