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Another atrocity !!

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NanaandGrampy Mon 18-Mar-19 11:35:54

Reading breaking news www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/utrecht-shooting-live-latest-after-gunman-opens-fire-on-tram-in-dutch-city/ar-BBUUBOo?ocid=spartanntp

The world has gone mad !!

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 11:40:03

Yes, my daughter will be getting in touch with a friend of ours who is Dutch and travels by tram to work.

NanaandGrampy Mon 18-Mar-19 14:05:02

The more these things happen the more I want to withdraw from a world where this has become the norm.

Urmstongran Mon 18-Mar-19 14:23:08

It’s so scary isn’t it N&G? Where will all this madness lead?

RosieLeah Mon 18-Mar-19 16:06:36

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EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 16:15:21

Border control can't check everyone coming and going, there aren't enough staff.

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 16:26:48

If security firms paid better wages then more people would be willing to work but when there are large volumes of people entering any country and the staff either can't cope, or are thin on the ground then what are you supposed to do ? The easiest option-----let them pass as does happen.

My D works in security, this is how I know, and risks her life at times.

maryeliza54 Mon 18-Mar-19 16:55:06

Might be worth waiting for some facts ..........

maryeliza54 Mon 18-Mar-19 16:57:11

Absolutely right Rosie. Don’t know about you but I hope we are not letting young white male Australians into the UK any more.

lemongrove Mon 18-Mar-19 17:00:05

Don’t forget this isn’t new ( random shootings) think of Hungerford and the shootings in the North East.
All countries have them and by all means not all linked to
Terrorism or religious/hate crime reasons.

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 17:09:37

My GS's are white male Australians-----there's nothing wrong with them. One was here last year .

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 17:10:52

They might even be here when their mum and dad arrive in June, who knows ?

lemongrove Mon 18-Mar-19 17:12:21

Ellan .....the above post by maryeliza was not a serious one.

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 17:13:16

A lot of Aussies work in London some on visas some are permanent residents.

maryeliza54 Mon 18-Mar-19 17:14:40

Thanks lemon it was meant to illustrate the disgusting racism of Rosies post

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 17:17:36

Really, lemongrove ? Could have fooled me.

lemongrove Mon 18-Mar-19 17:18:20

It was fairly obvious Ellan

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 17:19:13

Is it alright that we also have our Dutch friend over too ?

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 17:21:31

Not coming from its author it wasn't, lemongrove.

maryeliza54 Mon 18-Mar-19 17:22:40

Why - do they fit the profile of right wing white supremecists?

maryeliza54 Mon 18-Mar-19 17:24:10

Doesn’t anyone else think that Rosies post was racist or is it just me

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 17:25:08

I'll ignore that filthy question !

TerriBull Mon 18-Mar-19 17:30:48

Not sure whether this is a terror related incident, allegedly a family dispute where members of the public who tried to intervene got involved. No doubt the full story will come out in due course.

EllanVannin Mon 18-Mar-19 17:33:35

I don't know TerriBull.

maryeliza54 Mon 18-Mar-19 17:42:36

Oh goodness we won’t wait for the full story - facts getting in the way of venting racist posts- whatever next.