Corbyn's long game - driving journalists crazy- and you?

Anniebach And how did he do that with the help of his pal Murdock of the Sun Now Blair is advising Saudi leader getting paid handsomely. Tories selling arms to Saudi to bomb Yemen Blair was not true Labour

Granddad1943. You chuckle because bereaved parents were forced to pay towards the removal of tips, one of which had killed their children ? At the demands of the unions,

the winter of discontent, the unions again, which caused the country to vote for the Thatcher years

If you spout on about 1945, I will continue to bring up 1966
And 1983

Annie even if you choose to call a teapot a milk jug it remains a tea pot. Just as Corbyn is internationally recognised for his anti-racist views and actions and his attempts to broker peace, no matter what you choose to call him he remains what he has always been a true socialist, an anti-racist and a peace campaigner. The Labour party now is a true socialist party and the fact that you have abandoned all socialist beliefs is really not their fault.
Perhaps you could try posting some things you do believe in then we can judge for ourselves your political views. At present I just assume that they are somewhat similar to those of Margaret Thatcher.

......and now Corbyn is internationally recognised as a weak dithering fence sitter on just about any topic or policy, who would never as a PM be any threat to any country so they could do as they liked.

Those who see Corbyn for what he is are not Thatcher clones, many LP voters want a new leader, and many LP MP’s do too!

You forget trisher that the LP requires voters who are not the same thing at all as LP members.Corbyn is held in contempt by many voters.Labour should have sailed to victory long before now, it’s Corbyn they don’t like.

I don't want my country to be a threat to anyone (not that we could be). I would prefer that we became an integral part of anti-war and a peace process. The evidence that war doesn't work and never results in peace or a settled community is something we have learned from experience. As it is our policies have resulted in deaths, torture and terrorism, so if that is what you want I guess you wouldn't want Corbyn.

trisher I am not here for you and who ever ‘we’ are to judge . Not wise to assume anything about other posters ,

Sorry This is the leader where a female Jewish MP needed protection at her own conference

Come off it.

And the Second World War worked! Or would you rather now be living in a nazi caliphate

Yes, in times when we are threatened let’s just sit down, link arms and sing peace songs, that’ll work! Maybe offer an aggressor a lentil casserole and some mint tea.
In any case, it’s not about real potential war situations, but
Being strong with wording, think about what Corbyn said in Parliament ( what a plonker....he was on his own with that, well, he and Seamus Milne!) about what the Russians did in Salisbury.
He is hopeless as a leader and would be catastrophic as a PM.

I can't help feeling that the May Deal is the right way forward - we can have our own independent policy in Services, which is our strong suit. And I for one can't see much wrong with a customs arrangement, or even a customs union, to let us benefit from the global strength and expertise of the EU as the biggest, or one of the biggest trading blocs in the world. As far as I can see, the reason we do not export more in goods is not the EU - countries like Germany and France do better than us - but our poor productivity.

Pity that May has been let down by some in her own party as well as by others who want either No Deal or No Brexit, or who sit on the fence, all of whom will not compromise to get her sensible Brexit deal through - even though she's listened to them and will try to meet their points.

I wonder sometimes whether it is our fault, as the public, that we have tended to be blinded by the stardust of
political show people, failing to support the quiet woman in Downing Street. What do you think?

Corbyn supported the IRA, said Hamas are his friends , not forgetting he is dishonest, was at a wreath laying ceremony for terrorists who tortured then murdered Olympic athletes but doesn’t know if he was involved. Who admire an anti semetic wall mural then said ‘it was anti semetic I didn’t look closely at it.

Said he had never met an IRA terrorist, when it was disclosed he had shared a platform with them remained silent so Diane Abbott said he did share a platform but didn’t speak to them.

So I do not trust him to carry out his policies , he is not a man to be trusted

I have to say lemongrove I honestly have a huge social circle of all types so builders doctors teachers etc and I don’t know anyone, even my sister and my dad who are dyed in the wool labour, think he’s electable or would be anything other than a catastrophic PM.

I voted labour for years and admired Blaire until the Iraq debarcle but this opposition front bench is dreadful as is of course the present Tory front bench

If labour get a sensible leader and they have many many good back benchers they would immediately get my vote

Her deal may be OK if we have to leave. The problem is she has handled things so badly, alienating both leavers and remainers.

The referendum was a close result and the sensible way would have been to try and build a consensus and bring the country together. Instead she pandered to the extreme right in the Tory party and came out with nonsensical slogans such as 'Red White and Blue Brexit.

In my opinion she was also foolish to lay down red lines before the negotiations had even begun. Saying 'No deal is better than a bad deal' when she clearly didn't believe it has made people lose faith in her.

I am a remainer but I can see why leavers feel fed up. The problem is we are all probably going to have to pay the price now..

So this is where we are at today- written by a young friend:

'So May gets Labour to effectively vote against a second ref, puts the blame for no-deal firmly on them, retires with Phil and his nice money, leaves Johnson to take the car over the cliff and then turn the country into a banana republic tax haven in coalition with Farage.

Oh Jeremy Corbyn.'

Is that really what you wanted??? Was that the long game- No Deal and over the cliff. Really? I could just scream in despair- and will never ever forgive him- and I am not alone

They are both hopeless to be honest.

Belonged previously to a Remain internet group- all the JC supporters said 'trust him, he knows what he is doing, he is playing the long game, he won't leave it happen' - wonder what they are saying now???

jura2, just one thing wrong with your above above post and analyst @ 17:45 today, that being the Labour party are not the party of government in Britain at this crucial time.

That accolade of government is held by the Tory party as they called the referendum and then through their total incompetence brought this crisis to the door of every person who resides in Britain.

As stated, the Tory party got Britain into this mess; it is for the Tory party to get Britain out or resign from government and call a General Election.

If I was Corbyn I wouldn’t want a GE.

I think the Tories would be walloped too.

The Labour Party are the Official Opposition Party, with the majority of the front bench only been in Parliament a few years and a leader who has his questions written out for PMQ.

And a leader when asked in an interview the cost of free child care provision , said ‘ er, er, it will obviously cost a lot’
then looked on his iPad

But he leaves the maths to Dianne!

Anniebach, your total obsession in the hate of Jerem Corbyn has been recorded on this Forum for a considerable period of time. However, your statement that it took you fifty years of Labour party membership before you "realised you were in the wrong party" states all that needs to be said in regard to your political judgment.

That stated, I (and I am sure many other forum members) are deeply offended by your continual reference to the Aberfan Disaster (as you did once again on this thread today) to make a personal political point.

To use the deaths of those one hundred and forty-four persons with one hundred and sixteen of those being very young children as politics is " totally out of order" to put it very mildly.

I feel it is time Anniebach that you apologised for those actions to this forum.

That I stayed as a member of the Labour Party for OVER 50 years, through bad and good times, with party leaders

Gaitskill. Wilson. Callaghan. Foot. . Kinnock. Smith.
Blair. Brown.

And left the party because of Corbyn , proves my political
judgement is rather sensible

Of course if it Cameron and the Tories that got us in this utterly bl**dy mess Grandad. But the LP, with JC at the helm- could have saved the day - could have opposed positively, made the case for revoke or a Vote on the current situation, with all the facts, and with all the fraud and lies exposed.

He chose not to- because he is anti EU and has always been- and because he wants a GE at all costs- even if it destroys the country by throwing us into no Deal- destroy 1000s and 1000s more jobs and indusries, destroys the financial sector that pays a huge % of taxes to support the NHS, education, and all the other essentials. Destroys chances for our young people, destroys international research, security, medicines, and the NHS with it. And I can't believe that you will stand by. I can assure you LP, with JC at the helm, will never win a GE. He could have opposed, he didn't- because it suits his game. And he won't be forgiven. Oh yes, say it again, 'Conference' blessed Conference.