Corbyn's long game - driving journalists crazy- and you?

Corbyn knows if he came off the fence it would straight into the compost heap.

He is unsure whether he would come up with
labour roses or remain in the dark with mushrooms.

When Brexit is settled I await - ‘I was there but i don’t know if I was involved.’

good one Annie

Cherrytree and Annie

Isn't it funny, leavers consistently complain remainers don't take their views seriously and remainers point out the referendum was only advisory and the win too small, but let anyone try to see both points of view and you are sitting on the fence!

Corbyn is a master of fudge trisher and as leader of the opposition needs a clear view of what his own party actually wants and expects, even if such is an unpopular view.
He always seems incapable of a clear view and prefers to swim about in muddy waters.

Corbyn only sees the door to No 10, a leader should lead , Cable, Farage ,Caroline Lucas still seen as leader, they lead , no fence sitting waiting to see which way the wind blows.

And when has Corbyn seen both points of view ? never

Trouble was it wasn't only advisory! DC made it quite clear,both verbally and in writing (the pamphlet, of which we all got a copy) that the result EITHER way would be honoured. Parliament went along with this without a murmur, signed article 50 into law, again with hardly a murmur! To me that's a done deal. If it was advisory, then you could argue that parliament took and agreed that advice, confirming it on the strength of the signing of article 50! Either way round, they agreed it and acted upon it. The fact that they appear not to have known what they were signing for is not the fault of the general public! Which leads one to beg the question who ARE the misinformed the ill educated, the lazy, elderly, woolyheaded people here? The great British public, or our esteemed not so honourable MP's?!!!!!

trisher

Parliament took the chance on the people. They all promised to honour the referendum results. They all voted to trigger article 50.

They can’t now prevaricate on it was advisory or the margin was too small it’s utter nonsense and you know it.

I didn’t vote for TM but I accept she’s PM

Basically you lost get over it and let’s all make Brexit a success.

And Corbyn never sees both sides most politicians don’t.

He just dithers because he’s trying not to alienate his core voters.

He is in a difficult position I see that as his new voters are mainly youngsters who see him as ‘cool’ or middle class champagne socialist types who need to feel they are supporting the poor and probably never set foot in a council estate in their lives.

The old labour core vote went to ukip or now to Brexit.

And my post was not directed at any labour or Tory voters on here! Joking apart I do accept people vote according to their moral compass.

I find both sides morally repellent to be fair

Come to the NE the core vote is still Labour. It hasn't disappeared much as some may wish it would. I understand that it bothers a lot of GN posters because the younger generation have more of a social conscience than they have. But really this dismissal of young people is pathetic. And Corbyn isn't dithering he is trying to steer a way through a Tory mess which has split the country by promising the unacheivable in order to try and keep their right wing happy.

Of course he’s dithering.

Granted TM is hopeless and I don’t blame him breaking off Brexit talks why should he offer her a life line.

The young now have no more or no less a social conscience than we did. He attracted them because he lied over tuition fees, wears a peaked cap, doesn’t look smart and went to Glastonbury.

They know the fees are still theirs so have lost interest.

I wish the core labour vote hadn’t gone to Brexit, it will on Thursday as I think a sensible labour admin like we had under Blaire was fantastic until Iraq happened.

I can’t abide the Tories.

But you won’t win with Corbyn

I have 4 children between 20 and 30 and literally know dozens of youngsters.

No different in any way to every previous generation.

Mycatisahacker Corbyn will abolish tuition fees free lifelong learning at the point of use. Read Labours Policies

Blair New Labour was a Tory lite he was well in with Murdock, neoliberal capitalism He brought lots of PFIs into our NHS private finance initiative saddling the NHS with lots of debt.
Here are 100+ Labour polices to transform Britain

Corbyn can't be bought Labour is now socialist back to its roots.

Racism was never part of the Labour Party

Well said Grany. Jeremy Corbyn has supported wholeheartedly the policies set out by the Grassroots Labour activists at its last delicate conference, including their Brexit policy.

The above has placed the Labour movement once again as a radical true socialist organisation very much with the same ideology and policies as the 1945 Atlee government held.

That government transformed Britain into a far better society for the good of all. It is a pity that some in the Parliamentary Labour party will not join those Rank and File conference activists and support the changes they wish to see.

Time for some of the above to be deselected by their constituency parties I feel.

Anniebach Quote [Racism was never part of the Labour Party] End Quote

Just as Islamophobia should not be part of the Conservative Party, but it very much is, and they will not even open an internal enquiry into that situation.

Of course, the closet Tories only ever see things one way.

Deselected ? No surprise, the Labour Party is no longer a broad church party. It isn’t the .labour party of 1945,

Attlee saw the British communist party as a threat , he certainly was not anti semetic, he lead the party , didn’t need rabble like Momentum

Anniebach, you have stated on this forum that you were until very recently a Labour party member of fifty years.

The above means that you must have joined the party in approximately 1969 and remained with the party through the winter of content, the Miners strike, the Michael Foot years of leadership and Blair leading this country into the Iraq War.

The above were all times of

Sorry pressed the wrong key above and posted to early.

However the above were times of tremendous pressure and upheaval in the Labour Party and yet you state you continued your support and membership of the party throughout all of those troubled times.

However, only now you say that you realise you were in the wrong party.

Strange Judgment it would seem. ?

Over fifty years , yes remained even when the Unions kept
Lord Robens in his job and the labour government made the people of Aberfan pay part of the costs to remove the tips. Blair gave the village the money back when he was PM

When Michael Foot led the party into the wilderness

Michael didn’t lie, wasn’t a racist

Anniebach, ?
I am off to work and will be chuckeling about that all the way there.

Post again later.

It comes to something when MSM supporting the right wing Tories, who don't want to start having to pay their fair share tax can convince people that a life long anti racist campaigner who won two peace awards is anti Semitic he is patently not.
The Blairites those that want things to stay the same the careerist politicians who don't want change do need to be deselected.

And Momentum helped Labour as they could see what a fight we had on our hands with the Tories Blairites and MSM backing them, to get change true socialism back again.

The Labour Party with Blair as leader won three consecutive general elections