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Theresa May must go

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Anja Tue 19-Mar-19 07:36:39

How long must we put up with this blithering incompetent?

Poly Toynbee summed up her lack of ability and vision in this quote

“How different all this might have been under a wiser, cleverer, more empathic and perceptive leader. She could have reached out from her first day to try to heal the great gash in the country caused by David Cameron’s reckless referendum. Imagine if she had called a national council, a Speaker’s conference or a commission of all parties and interests, with citizen’s assemblies to lay out what was actually possible and what was fantastical nonsense in ways forward. But that is a unicorn wish: she is what she is. The country fell into the hands of someone only capable of making a very bad situation infinitely worse.”

crystaltipps Thu 21-Mar-19 10:39:20

I didn’t say Blair did everything right, just his government did spend a lot on education which should be acknowledged. I didn’t say I agreed with the Iraq war, ( I went on the march) not sure how you linked that to saying he did do one or two good things. You could name any PM of what ever hue and point out some of the awful things they did- poll tax anyone? The current incumbent is probably the worst though.

lemongrove Thu 21-Mar-19 10:35:27

You can’t blame T May for telling it like it is!
Most people are not glued to PMQ’s as they are working ( or wouldn’t watch it anyway) so don’t always know what’s been going on in the HOC.
What she said in the address from Downing St was spot on.
There is a deal ready to be accepted and still the MP’s are dragging their feet on it, laughing and lolling about on the benches, exchanging rude comments and playing party politics and displaying self interest.They are, with a few exceptions no doubt, an absolute shower.

humptydumpty Thu 21-Mar-19 10:21:59

EV maybe you could find it within yourself to give some credit to TB for the Good Friday agreement and the number of lives he has saved there; also it is not as if he swept into Iraq single-handed: UK about 45,000 US about 130,000

Urmstongran Thu 21-Mar-19 09:43:20

The serious possibility exists that everyone is misreading this. Not beyond the bounds that May has connived with the EU negotiators to get her BINO WA through.

May ran the clock down so the EU could issue the ultimatum last minute: May WA or No Deal.

Caledonai14 Thu 21-Mar-19 09:36:50

Yes Grandad 1943, TM's speech was reckless in view of the fact that MPs are already receiving death threats.

I still don't understand why we cannot have a confirmatory referendum if Mrs May is allowed to ask the same question over and over again til she gets her way. This is not democracy. It is dictatorship. Her performance in the Commons yesterday was dreadful.

Grandad1943 Thu 21-Mar-19 09:31:42

Theresa May's address to the nation last night seemed to be designed to set the general public against Parliament and all the MPs within it. That is a perilous strategy to carry out I believe, for, in the eyes of some it may be seen as encouraging not only verbal attack on those MPs but possibly also physical attack on those representatives.

Many MPs are already receiving threatening letters and emails in large numbers, therefore to heighten further the divisions within this country in regards to brexit is nothing short of totally foolish.

Theresa May has been undoubtedly under great psychological strain in the last few weeks, and I believe that her address last night called into question her mental stability.

Alima Thu 21-Mar-19 09:30:00

I think that TM is doing her utmost to get a deal even though there are so many plotting against the progress and that Polly Toynbee is conditioned to slag her off. Really confused as to how the Falklands conflict has been dragged into this. There seem to be many people saying that TM is deluded. Pot calling kettle imho.

Nicenanny3 Thu 21-Mar-19 09:29:51

Anja how nice of you posting on a thread to another poster you will pm her about me I'm sure this breaks GN rules.

EllanVannin Thu 21-Mar-19 09:06:23

No deal will be a disaster !

Davidhs Thu 21-Mar-19 08:53:27

Anja you are out of order, TM failed to get agreement because there is no deal to be done. The Irish border issue is insoluble for political reasons and technical safeguards do not exist.

In any negotiations there is a point where no more concessions are made and each party either accepts that or goes their own way. The backstop deal is a poor compromise but did allow some scope for trade changes but no deal is going to be painful.

Anja Thu 21-Mar-19 08:49:34

Thank you Annie

Pax

EllanVannin Thu 21-Mar-19 08:49:32

The Iraq war was nothing to do with us and should never have taken place. Falklands is British so therefore the country has to be protected.

Anniebach Thu 21-Mar-19 08:46:36

Thank you for your PM Anja. you were replying to a post and I thought you were replying to a different post , my error,

EllanVannin Thu 21-Mar-19 08:46:22

Anja, yes " Maggie and the Falklands "----------because Argentine were going to march in and take over their country, D'oh ! Read about it and find out.

The Falklands war was a swift no nonsense war which was over in as little time as possible. No more trouble since !

Since Iraq ( 2003 ) we've had constant attacks no thanks to Blair.

Davidhs Thu 21-Mar-19 08:32:26

I have a lot of sympathy for TM she cannot win and probably won’t I give her credit for doing better than any man would but her day is coming to an end now.
With a new Brexit day nobody seems to expect any change in parliament and the backstop deal will be dead, so we are left with No Deal or I suppose Remain and neither of those are wanted by MPs.

The EU seem to be standing solid and an interesting comment from Germany was mentioned yesterday

“ Better a horrible end than a continuing horror”

I think it’s time to bite the bullet, nobody wins but it’s over.
No Canada deal, no cherry picking, nothing.

Anniebach Thu 21-Mar-19 08:30:53

Ok Anja

Anja Thu 21-Mar-19 08:27:00

No I didn’t Annie

I will continue this via PM

Anniebach Thu 21-Mar-19 08:23:01

Anja Nicenanny replied to a post of mine , you criticised her reply with ‘WTF’, no need for that .

Anja Thu 21-Mar-19 08:18:12

Maggie and the Falklands?

But let’s keep to the subject. This is about TM here and now and her totally inept handling of the Brexit conundrum.

Only the blinkered can deny she has made a total cock-up of the process. Only the delusional can claim it’s Corbyn’s fault.

Does anyone actually think she has made a good fist of this?

Jane10 Thu 21-Mar-19 08:12:49

I like Theresa May. Her speech yesterday encapsulated exactly what I was thinking! smile

EllanVannin Thu 21-Mar-19 08:12:31

Has TM ever been responsible for the loss of so many servicemen/women ? NO ! But the Labourites have !

EllanVannin Thu 21-Mar-19 08:09:04

Blair led us into war in/with Iraq, Crystaltipps. An unnecessary war which has had a devastating effect since, namely the terrorism that we now have ! Wouldn't you fight back if someone marched into your space all guns blazing ? For nothing ?

Brown got rid of some of our gold stocks at the most ridiculous price to affect the economy.
There was also the other two clowns Callaghan and Wilson.

Those who are doing the most crowing in Westminster are the Brexiteers !!

Anja Thu 21-Mar-19 08:04:32

Annie I haven’t a clue what so-called Nicenanny was on about, but thank you for supporting her nasty post to me.

andycameron69 Thu 21-Mar-19 07:27:54

I loathe her, she spouts untruths all the time and is insincere.

a horrid individual, she just loves EU more than UK
grin

crystaltipps Thu 21-Mar-19 07:26:18

The message seems to be from May is - my epic incompetence has led you into complete apathy. Her telling us how we are thinking a bit unfortunate, she doesn’t do empathy very well does she? - I share your pain - really?