“Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU” Petition

This makes interesting reading:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Foundations of Geopolitics is a book by Aleksandr Dugin.

Commenting on it: "In 2017, news.com.au said that the book "reads like a to-do list for Putin's behaviour on the world stage"

The 'list' is in the article...

Kapitan.... great answer from you to another tiresome accusation of pearl clutching.
‘Better to clutch them than cast them’.......although it may be over that poster’s head!

There is so much in that polemic that rings true Maizie. We have to be very wary of Russia.

Casting pearls before swine you mean? Nasty analogy, and of course we do understand. Kapitan, Lemongrove

According to The Guardian today, Johnson and Gove have dropped their appeal against the Electoral Commission's ruling that they broke the law when they channelled hundreds of thousands of pounds of donations to a supposedly independent group - BeLeave. Gove was co-convener and Johnson was the figurehead of the official Brexit campaign. Liam Fox, IDS and Dominic Raab were on the committee.

Previously they had said they couldn't comment pending the appeal, but now they've dropped it pressure is on them to admit that Vote Leave broke the law. They claim that they have dropped the appeal because they're out of funds.

Layla Moran Lib Dem MP is reported to have said, 'It is now incumbent on the government to act. We have heard minister after minister say the referendum is valid. This is proof it was not.'

Yes, it is time to revoke Article 50 because it was submitted on a result obtained by fraudulent means. There should be a public enquiry now, otherwise it seems senior Government ministers are above the law.

But that’s not the voters fault.
Leavers had no idea what money was being spent.
And I’m certain if remainers could overturn the referendum result on some over spending technicality they would have by now!

Kadinsky why do you think that we have spending limits in this country? We regard it as an essential component of democracy in that being able to essentially ‘buy’ votes is fundamentally anti-democratic.

Kandinsky with respect we did know they were lying at the time. We're not talking small change here, it's thousands and thousands of pounds fraudulently spent to win the Referendum. At some stage they must answer the public for deceiving them. This is not a jolly jape if they are let off it means Minsters think they're above the law. Sorry to be so blunt but smell the coffee.

One might reflect on what they were doing to their mate Cameron, as they were setting him up good style. Don't forget the look on Johnson's face when the result was announced. They did not expect it.

The insults towards those who voted to leave the EU ( on GN) has been staggering and an eye opener.
Now we are witnessing those same ‘remainer’ posters having a last gasp at it.
I assume these people regard themselves as liberal fair minded citizens, who have no hint of bias and never look down on others. I do wonder about that!
Despite the attempts by Parliament generally to create a dogs dinner out of things, we will leave the EU this year.
Life will go on.

lemongrove I think the Remainers (including me) are miffed that such an important step was taken on such a small majority. Things should have been handled better before the referendum. More information should have been given to people. Most of the people who voted didn't know what it would involve. And some of them, not all by a long way, were simply Little Englanders, or outright racists.

Being miffed is allowed Gonegirl but you ( we) knew in advance that the result with the most votes would win the day. Would you have accepted that outcome if Remain had won the day ?It really is as simple as answering that question honestly.
Most people ( on all sides) could not know what it would involve, or how things would be negotiated.More prior information could not have helped.
The voters of the UK had to leave things to the government and Parliament.....it’s what they are there for, but sadly they have shown us that they are not up to the job.

That doesn’t excuse GN posters from taking out their ‘miffed’ feelings on other GNers either.

I am "miffed" that a major decision was taken on such a small majority. That the campaign for Leave that won was built on lies and illegally funded. There has not been a prosectution because the Electoral Commission's remitt is General Elections and not referendums.
A woman (chair of the Leave campaign?) on TV this morning saying all the documentation about the campaign has been destroyed. Now why would you do that?
I will ask the question again Why can't there be another vote? What are Leavers afraid of?

More than 6 million signatures!

This seems to be picking up speed again. I wonder if that's because they are going to debate it in the House of Commons tomorrow?

If Remain had won I wouldn't have minded if there was a regular referendum to decide our status, say every 5 years or so.

I am sorry to see that honest criticism is being conflated with outright insults.
I am disappointed that a post which was very clearly about some ( and in one case about one specific brexit marcher ) is distorted into an overwhelming insult covering everyone who voted to leave.

Perhaps reading the thread, including preceding posts and working within a context, might make the argument more logical instead of just jumping and mindlessly hollering "insult".

Little of what you say lemongrove would go over the head of rational posters, as most of your posts are eminently predictable and transparent.

Ah! Another insult I see.
mcem... I can take nothing that you say to me seriously, as you have always taken issue with me, I think at some point and on some subject back in the mists of time on GN
You have chosen to be offended by something I posted.
It’s not just this thread ( insults hurled at fellow GNers who voted Leave) but on many many threads in the almost 3 years since the referendum.It’s childish and tiresome, and posters really should pack it in.

I have 4 email addresses for different aspects of my life.
I could sign anything multiple times and so could anyone, therefore the numbers could be significantly and falsely inflated.

Most of those 'signatures' were garnered from places where there are usually large 'youth' movements and anarchists enclaves.
Anything for notoriety.

anarchist enclaves what are we stuck in the 1920s? Someone send at once for Poirot the servants are revolting!

Plenty of insults hurled at remain supporters. Many of them from the very people that claim to be insulted. Some lovely person was carrying gallows with a noose on at the pro brexit march. Nice.

Can you prove your assertion GG 54?
The underlying data just says how many signatures come from each constituency. So which constituencies are anarchist hotbeds?

Goodness, you lot are desperate..

Revoking Article 50 is the most popular of any Brexit option with the public, a bombshell poll suggests today.

The survey of 1,010 people found 36% want to abandon leaving the EU entirely, despite the nation voting by 52% to 48% to leave in the 2016 referendum.

The second most popular option was to crash out with no deal on April 12 unless the EU makes further concessions - a choice backed by 26% of people.

Those options were followed by 'Don't Know' on 13% and backing Theresa May's deal on 12%.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-more-third-people-back-14212979

Even more impressive is the poll of 15,585 readers of The Times and The Sunday Times who were asked last week "should the UK revoke article 50?" and 73% said "YES"

Sweet of you to ask MD but I'm far too disinterested in your point if view to respond.
I'm sure you can make up a suitable one yourself, one that fits in with your skewed vision of leavers.