“Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU” Petition

Poppyred do you really think a second vote would be for Leave now we all know so many huge negatives that will befall us if we do leave? I think a lot of people have changed their mind.

petitions mean nothing, achieve nothing are a waste of time

do not bother

out we go friday whoop whoop party time

4 million signatures

Democracy isn't just about who wins; it's about how they win.

In which case we have rarely lived in a Democracy. Every election contains subterfuge, twisting of facts, etc. There have also been claims of rigging, overspending, etc in the past but it doesn't usually mean we get to change the result of the election. The Project Fear tactics of the Remain Campaign was outrageous too but I suspect if they'd have won, the Leavers would be expected to abide by the result.

I can be confident in the way I voted because I didn't just listen to the news (which tended to be biased towards Remain) or what the Leave Campaign were saying. I have watched for years what is happening, saw how Greece were treated, thought about the burgeoning bureaucracy, the length of time it takes to make progress, etc and made my choice. I suspect a vast amount of people did the same. I also think the Remainers were so confident they would win they didn't enter the polling booth.
In a way, I would be happy to have a new referendum because I don't think it would necessarily be as clear cut as you think it would be. A lot of leavers do feel intimidated to admit they voted leave and would do again so in the Polls don't always admit their leaning. I just don't think we have time to do this because we are on the wire. We can't carry on in limbo forever.
Anyway, we could debate this ad infinitum but it won't get us anywhere, we are never going to agree. We just have to wait for Parliament to decide what they are going to do. Whichever side wins, there are going to be some very sore losers.

Just now still growing 4.12 million 11:00 23/3/19. There is a counter one which has been running for almost 6 months and only got around 456,000 signature for exiting with no deal. Considering the relatively short time the Revoke Petition has been running the figures show that the "Will of the People" has changed in favour of staying in.

Still Maybot is in hock to the ERG - What planet is she on?

Today's March will show even more hostility to the Government's course of action. Just hope that Parliament does act in the interests of the country.

Of course there’s hostility to brexit, millions of people voted to remain.
But leave won so I’m afraid that’s it.
It will be absolute carnage to not respect the result of the referendum, &will result in millions of people so disillusioned that they’ll never bother voting again. And the last thing politicians want is people not voting, especially as voter apathy was bad enough pre brexit!

Another 300,000 signatures in the last hour. But more disturbingly the lady who raised the petition has received 3 telephone death threats.

Andrea Leadsom reluctantly said that if 17 million signed the petition they might take note of it. Let's hope Parliament is more realistic.

But more disturbingly the lady who raised the petition has received 3 telephone death threats.

Despicable. Any threats of violence, no matter what side you are on, are completely out of order.

Apparently the woman behind a 4 million strong petition to revoke Article 50 reportedly made a Facebook comment in which she threatened to shoot the Prime Minister.

Not good.

Evidence of that Urmston gran? because most of the criticism of this petition made by leavers is totally fabricated.

No problem trisher

Former college lecturer Margaret Anne Georgiadou made a viral petition backed by a host of celebrities, MPs and members of the public who want a second referendum.

In Facebook posts unearthed by blogger Guido Fawkes, she reportedly wrote online: 'If i got hold of a 'gun' I'd shoot her [Theresa May] point blank in the name of patriotism'.

Totally fake Umgran tit for tat unfortunately so much fake news as Trump would say Anyway shows signs of desperation on the leavers part

And that poor silly toad of a man is still trying to get his 200 supporters to walk in protest ???

It’s not fake.
You just don’t like it.

"The former college lecturer also wrote on Twitter that her Facebook had been hacked this morning - after her alleged posts were published by Guido - and that she was closing her account."

That’s convenient. I don’t believe her.

I do - so that cancels that out.

Well this is getting murky. She says her FB page had been hacked in the last 10 hours.

Yet this from Guido - from way back in January (ie before the purported ‘hacking’) ....

Remainers and Leavers alike have been getting a little too excited about the Revoke Article 50 Petition. Yes, you can sign it as many times as you like with made up email addresses and whatever name and country you care to put in. Yes, there are videos online explaining in detail how to use bots to hijack Parliamentary petitions – exactly what happened with the second referendum petition immediately after the referendum. Is it actually going to stop Brexit? No, that will be MPs…

The creator of the petition is a certain Margaret Anne Georgiadou, who went on LBC to discuss the petition this afternoon. Now Guido can reveal a series of shocking posts from her on Facebook where she makes repeated death threats against Theresa May. She even discusses in detail with fellow Remainers how to purchase “legal” guns and go to the House of Commons.

In January, Georgiadou wrote about how she hoped that May would kill herself. In two further comments that now appear to have been deleted, she described May (or possibly Andrea Leadsom) as a “creature” that “needs putting down” and threatened to shoot May “point blank”.

I think the government will get the message with the numbers marching in London today. No need to register a vote to be there.

Still, it seems the woman who started this petition has been found to have extreme views about the members of the Cabinet - several months ago.

I've looked at the Guido Fawkes site owned by Paul Staines a committed Brexiteer. It's like a political comic book with text which is very difficult to read.

Not sure about Staines' very right wing motives, but if it's not true, then it won't be the first time he's faced a lawsuit (Allegedly.) At Uni he was a member of a Conservative group that was so right-wing it was disbanded by Margaret Thatcher.

However, if it's true Ms Georgiadou will clearly be investigated by the police. If it's true why was it not investigated when first discovered? Takes us back to our debate about threats to public figures.

It is of course totally obvious that the approx 1 million marching in London today are more or less all Russian trolls ;)

Awaiting for facts rather than hearsay.

But even if- it makes no difference that 4.3 million people have clearly chosen to sign, because this is what they truly want to happen.

It is of course totally obvious that the approx 1 million marching in London today are more or less all Russian trolls ;)

But, just because they are marching, it doesn’t mean they are all eligible to vote.

What is it that the Leavers fear? They insist that it is democracy in action for Brexit to happen although it was a tiny majority. They make up stories about a petition (Does it really matter who started it?) and their reports that there were loads of fake signatures has been proved wrong. They now apparently question the marchers in London. Could it be that they actually know that another referendum would not go their way? That they want to get Brexit over asap because otherwise it might not happen? That what they want is not democracy but expediency? Something that smacks more of dictatorship.

It's now approaching four and a half million and holds the record for the largest such petition of all time.