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Brexit-what else?

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Mollygo Wed 27-Mar-19 09:01:35

Just joined GN and I thought this would be the place to ask. On the news today I heard them talking about getting rid of Mrs May and getting a “proper brexiteer”.
What’s one of those?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Apr-19 10:44:13

Marine Le Pen

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Apr-19 10:38:13

Some lessons being learned by the hard right in Europe from the U.K. and its humiliation. Marine La Penn and others of the hard right no longer talks of leaving the EU but of reform. They now understand the value of a large economic block.
i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/111909319/brexit-lessons-from-britain-now-a-global-laughing-stock

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Apr-19 09:55:07

To day is the 21st anniversary of the GFA.

That fragile peace must never be compromised.

peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/IE%20GB_980410_Northern%20Ireland%20Agreement.pdf

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Apr-19 08:33:23

Some of the pressures faced by the E27 in giving consideration to a long extension is to try to balance the tension between the damage a crash out would do to their businesses and voter against an extension which means the U.K. would continue as an (apparent) reluctant member and the EU being unable to give its entire focus on the years business, like electing new leaders.
At the moment a long extension looks most likely giving greater stability to all.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Apr-19 08:24:10

What clever young men these 4 are

www.facebook.com/374151396735323/posts/422379235245872/

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Apr-19 08:21:36

Of course not only did May not understand the EU, but a Tory made a speech arguing that neither did the U.K. voter prior to the referendum.
twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1110946588015427590

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Apr-19 08:13:18

An article by a French publication that suggests that May had a poor understanding of the working of the EU, and the fact that she ignored advice from Sir Ivan Rogers not to invoke Article 50 until she had a clear plan ratified if possible by parliament.
www.businessinsider.fr/us/theresa-may-strategic-error-triggering-article-50-2017-10

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Apr-19 07:30:36

Much depends on May’s performance today in her meeting with the EU leaders.
It is a shame that so much depends on someone so poor at communicating.

GabriellaG54 Tue 09-Apr-19 23:14:12

Greta

I no wot I rote.

GabriellaG54 Tue 09-Apr-19 23:05:32

Yes Greta I did write that and it was not sarcasm but a statement of fact.

varian Tue 09-Apr-19 22:58:37

Yes, I make no assumptions about any or all leave voters, even though I have heard many say they have changed their minds. Some feel ashamed that they believed the lies, but I certainly don't think leave voters need to feel ashamed. It is the Leave campaigners who lied and cheated who should be apologising to us all.

petra Tue 09-Apr-19 22:49:55

Varian
Did you or did you not say @14.52 ^ you don't need to feel ashamed of voting Leave^
You assumed, as you do on every Brexit thread what leavers are thinking.
Yet again your last sentence @21.33 is another of your sanctimonious assumptions.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Apr-19 22:49:29

News report on Sky.
9 months to a year extension being reported. Looks as if Brexit will be kicked into the long grass. Huge implications.
EU elections - almost certain to become a remain/Brexit election
EU clearly fully in control now. Tory government has brought humiliation on the U.K.
Triggering Article 50 without a plan also meant that May immediately handed control to the EU.
Talks continuing with Labour saves Mays face in the EU talk tomorrow
The continuing civil war in the Tory party means May is now very vulnerable. It is unlikely she will survive this.
Brexit as a process is looking very shaky.

Greta Tue 09-Apr-19 22:19:19

Whitewavemark2, thank you for the blue link. Useful.

Gabriella G54: "^Only the lonely, the bored and the sad would bother with 'blue links^"

Gabriella, upthread you wrote: "^Sarcasm...always the default mode when intelligent reasoning fails.^"

trisher Tue 09-Apr-19 22:16:40

On second thoughts, some speed might do some of them the world of good

trisher Tue 09-Apr-19 22:15:33

Oh you couldn't make it up, could you? Perfidious Albion on speed Well it sums up this Tory Government!!!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Apr-19 21:59:41

Do not read this if you have a weak stomach.
If you are a UKIP supporter I trust you could not support this councillor

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-47824367

Lily65 Tue 09-Apr-19 21:59:00

so now May is grovelling about in Europe and there is no immediate exit for the UK.

What a joke, a very bad one.

mostlyharmless Tue 09-Apr-19 21:57:21

How embarrassing to have Brexiteer Mark Francois MP representing Britain! (Or England as he prefers)
His threat in a speech to the EU.
Unfortunately, he doesn’t even understand the meaning of the word “perfidious”. (Deceitful).

"If you try to hold us against our will, you will be faced with Perfidious Albion on speed".

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Apr-19 21:48:38

Boothroyd 91 years and like Scott another 90 year old who understands the value of what we might lose.

“To the young - the future is yours and should not rest with those who are rooted in the past ........
Not in my worse nightmares did I think we would end up like this only days away from leaving with a no deal exit, with food shortages, medicine shortages ....... nobody voted for this mess.
I blame the charlatans that said this would be easy..... the falsehoods of the potential next leaders. Totally untrustworthy.
Support the young in their fight for their future

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Apr-19 21:34:58

Fabian Picardo - supporting a people’s vote in the rally.

Betty Bothroyd’s speech was magnificent.

varian Tue 09-Apr-19 21:33:13

petra you should be careful not to make false accusations.. I did not say that pinkquartz* was ashamed of voting leave nor have I ever claimed to know what all leavers are thinking.

However I think many would benefit from reading some of the posts on the link I gave.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Apr-19 21:12:09

Article 39, allows for every EU citizen to stand as a candidate for election to the EU parliament in the country in which they reside,

I would hope that the young take enthusiastic part. It is their future.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Apr-19 20:54:47

This is apparently a draft in reply to Mays letter.

Interesting no dates yet. Presumably to be discussed tomorrow

twitter.com/Malky58/status/1115690678468730880

GabriellaG54 Tue 09-Apr-19 20:48:11

Only the lonely, the bored and the sad would bother with 'blue links'.