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No one to vote for if a General Election was called now

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MamaCaz Fri 29-Mar-19 09:46:10

I am sure that I am not alone in feeling that if a General Election was called right now, I would be totally stumped.

Despite what some will have deduced from my posts on the political threads, I am not a dyed-in-the-wool socialist, and have been known to vote both Labour and Conservative in past elections. I suppose that makes me a floating voter, though I am more swayed by how the party in power has behaved over the last term of office than I am by any unrealistic promises of what wonderful things they 'will' do after the election.
That is why,based on what I saw in Cameron's first term in office, I certainly wasn't prepared to vote Tory in 2015, or in 2017 when May called the election.

But who to vote for?

Labour would almost certainly get my vote now if it had a half-decent leader, but it has become increasingly obvious that under Corbyn, Labour stands little or no chance of winning an election, and even if they did, I think that chaos would ensue. It would be a disaster.
In fact, if they had a decent leader, I think that there is a strong chance that they would already be back in power.

Yet in my area (Leadsom's constituency), Labour is the only party that stands any chance whatsoever (with a miracle) of getting even close to challenging the Conservatives, who got over 62% of the vote in 2017.

The Lib Dems are showing little sign of recovery (is this their own failing, or are the media to blame for not allowing them enough coverage?)

In the absence of a system of PR, a vote for the smaller parties just feels like a totally wasted vote, in my region, anyway!

Everything considered, right now, if pushed, I would probably vote Lib Dem, for the simple reason that they have been against Brexit all along - it really angers me when (mostly) Tory brexiteers claim that all votes for both Labour and Conservative in 2017 count as support for Brexit, as if that was the only policy on their manifestos.

At least voting Lib Dem would remove my vote from that count, which has to be better than nothing.
Without even that option, I would feel totally disenfranchised!

Does anyone else feel the same?

Anja Sat 30-Mar-19 13:21:21

Remind me again who is in power? Oh yes! The Conservatives.

And who voted them in (just) in 2015? The British public!

So ladies we have exactly the bunch of self-serving, incompetents we collectively deserve.

maddyone Sat 30-Mar-19 13:18:21

‘Some people don’t really know what their party stands for.’

Well unless they’re party members it’s not their party is it? Floating voters tend to look at the situation as a whole, and make a decision on which party will be better for Britain at that particular time. What they don’t do is blindly follow a particular party because they always have done. With Labour at the moment, many traditional Labour voters feel unable to vote Labour whilst Jeremy Corbyn is it’s leader. Obviously they must feel that they don’t care for his policies or that he would not make a good PM. In fact then, they become floating voters at this time. Maybe they will return to Labour at another time. Many traditional Conservative voters may well not vote Conservative at the next election, they apparently feel let down by the Brexit debacle.
I am a floating voter myself. I don’t blindly follow one particular party. At the moment I’ve no idea what I will vote at the next election. I believe that’s just about where the thread started isn’t it?

Hilos Sat 30-Mar-19 13:10:38

This is one reason why I despair. Also even more vital is that the world needs to unite in the campaign to tackle global warming which we are told will become irreversible in the next eleven years.despite this most governments have their heads in the sand.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/03/humbling-britain?fbclid=IwAR10r7SBsWlw3p26D0leUpvaIS-p8zW5DT3dLLFD6ktsxLpcuQ-PhKzFS8A

123coco Sat 30-Mar-19 12:50:58

I simply can’t understand floating voters You simply read the mission statement or whatever it’s called , what they have believed in for the last hundred or 200 or whatever that should be it I don’t think Manchester United fans leave just because they’ve had a bad, season ! I don’t like Jeremy Corbyn Because I don’t think you can win , but I’m a Labour member and I always will be because I see myself supporting policies which look out for the most vulnerable in our society , and progressive and forward looking. Whereas the Conservatives are all for ‘small society ‘ that is the individual and business Sometimes I think Some people really don’t know what their party stands for .
There is a big difference between patriotic and nationalistic I am definitely patriotic .

123coco Sat 30-Mar-19 12:45:19

quizqueen Well I’m very sorry for your loss of everything that is civilised and considered tolerant in this country. If I belonged to UKIP I would be to embarrassed to tell anyone!

kazziecookie Sat 30-Mar-19 12:33:42

I am a member of the Labour Party and campaigned for them around the streets in the last general election. Our then rather useless Tory MP was replaced by a young Labour MP. He is a very nice man and quite passionate about our City but I has not really represented the majority leave voter of our area.
I have met Jeremy Corbyn and found him to be a decent guy, so find it difficult to understand the hatred people feel for him.
Even though I am thoroughly disappointed with how both main parties have been acting, I would have to vote Labour because I want a more caring society. Too many people are suffering after the years of Tory Austerity.
I am also a WASPI so would dearly love my pension.

laurensam Sat 30-Mar-19 12:21:41

I really don't think I'll be ever voting again after the mess this lot have done to our country, perhaps if they had all rallied round for the sake of Great Britain in the being we might have got out with a good deal, but now we are the laughing stock of the world and will end up being euros whipping boy for ever more

karinu Sat 30-Mar-19 12:04:44

Just re-joined the LibDems after leaving when they got together with the Tories. No chance for them under the current system sadly but got to start somewhere....

Happysexagenarian Sat 30-Mar-19 11:47:39

I've never been particularly interested in politics, and now after the Brexit debacle I've definitely had enough! I'm never voting for anyone ever again!

Firecracker123 Sat 30-Mar-19 11:47:19

Nick Clegg put himself before anything else. The Lib Dems will never hold any real power.

Skinnylizzie Sat 30-Mar-19 11:44:17

Every one I have spoken to since the idea of a general election was floated has said the same thing. No matter what their political persuasion! I don’t want to not vote as I feel really strongly I have a duty to honour the sacrifice made so that I could, I have taught so many girls that, but honestly I’m at the point where I’m ready to write None of the Above!!!

Kim19 Sat 30-Mar-19 11:42:37

All I know at the moment is that I will not vote for my current MP irrespective of party. My dream is for every last one of current MPs to be ousted. I realise this means that an odd 'good' one would go out with the bath water but, on this occasion, I feel that is a price worth paying. My dilemma is who to vote for at all but I will study form as usual and attend any local meetings. I cannot bring myself to spoil my paper. Tempting, but can't shake the feeling that it's both an act of vandalism and a waste of time.

varian Sat 30-Mar-19 11:38:13

I think HurdyGurdy you are wrong to say the Libs threw away their principles just to get into government. A key liberal principle is to be prepared to work with others for the good of all. I was a very reluctant supporter of the coalition, but I thought that we had to try it for the good of the country. The alternative would have been another election which would have returned a majority Tory government as no other party had the money to fight another election.

Of course it was necessary to compromise and mistakes were made, the worst being tuition fees. Just remember tuition fees were introduced by Labour, who then promised not to put them up but did. It was Tory policy to raise them and the Libs were totally against this but in the end conceded in return for the Pupil Premium which has helped many disadvantaged children. The policy of taking low earners out of paying income tax was also a LibDem policy which they had to fight hard for against Tory resistance but the Tories have since claimed credit for it.

The Liberal Democrats paid a heavy price for puting the country before the party, losing most of their seats in 2015. However if you look back and contrast the coalition years with the behaviour of an unfettered Tory government since then, I think you can see that was a better time.

newgran2019 Sat 30-Mar-19 11:34:26

Grannyactivist, I would say Thirsk and Malton MP Kevin Hollinrake is a decent, hard-working man who seems to have principles and always responds to our letters, often taking action on them. But, as a socially conservative, economically more left-wing voter, I have no real representation in North Yorkshire!

HurdyGurdy Sat 30-Mar-19 11:23:19

I have always struggled to choose a party to vote for.

I've lived under Labour and not been impressed, and I've lived under Conservatives and not been impressed.

I've never lived under Liberals, as was, or LibDems, but they lost any respect I might have had for them when they threw all their principles out of the window just to get into a government in any shape size or form when they went into the coalition.

I just don't know.

I like some Labour policies, I like some Conservative policies, but I don't like enough of either party's policies to throw my weight behind any of them.

I have lost all respect for any of the MPs in seats right now, for the appalling way they have dealt with Brexit. As far as I can see, not one of them is voting on May's proposals/agreements etc, for the good of the country, but only on party politics and the usual "oooh, we smell blood here, let's go in for the kill, and to pot with how this affects the country".

I guess it's another "wait and see" after the absolute shambles that has been Brexit, and see what each party is offering then.

Jabberwok Sat 30-Mar-19 11:16:14

To be fair,the only truthful people in this debacle are the libdems. The are a remain party, did not vote for article 50, did not run the last GE on the promise of delivering brexit, did not (understandably) vote for the withdrawal agreement. You may not agree with them, but at least they've been consistent and truthful throughout. As for Labour?!! words fail me. They voted against the withdrawal agreement and yet went to the country on a manifesto of delivering brexit !! oh, and voted for article 50!!! How can you deliver brexit without a withdrawal agreement?- just beggars belief!!

Firecracker123 Sat 30-Mar-19 11:01:50

I'll be voting for Nigel Farage Brexit Party or UKIP, the Conservatives or Labour will ever get my vote again they have betrayed the referendum.

Elliepops Sat 30-Mar-19 10:59:04

Always voted. Grandmother was a suffragette.
But I,m stymied now.
Can't stand any sort of racism or anti semitism.dont even want to vote. First time in my eligible life.
Thank God,that I wont be around to see more of this self serving shambles led by snakes.
TM,imo has been stalwart,tenacious and stood by christian values.

Urmstongran Sat 30-Mar-19 10:54:47

If you spoil your voting slip Ginny42 by writing on it ‘none of the above’ your polling number will register you did bother to go to the polling station so it countermands ‘apathy’.

Wendiwoo Sat 30-Mar-19 10:53:26

I too am at a loss who I would vote for. Our current MP is a weaselly brown-nosed Tory who is only interested in the affluent members of the constituency. Us in the ‘cheap seats’ never see hide nor hair of him. Our constituency voted to Remain, yet Mr Brown-Nose is one of the ERG gang so the views of his constituents are absolutely being ignored.
I am a floating voter and tend to go for the ones who I feel will (maybe) bring some benefits to the country, but where are they?

Hilos Sat 30-Mar-19 10:52:58

Caroline Lucas Green party. She's a brilliant hardworking MP

Venetia Sat 30-Mar-19 10:48:07

I would love to cast my vote for the Liberal-Democrats, but I live in a Tory safe seat and they are so far behind as to be invisible. Having said that, Labour did win in 1997, just the once , so you never know so that is where my vote would go.
I'm not happy with JC, but the way I see it is most of his worst loony left ideas would be squashed and he's got to be better than anything the Tory party come up with after May has finally gone. Like most people I noticed how Rees -Mogg and BoJo could find it themselves to support May's rotten deal once they found out it meant they would be up for the premiership. Not if I have anything to do with it.

Glammy57 Sat 30-Mar-19 10:43:37

I shall vote Labour, should there be a general election. I like J.C and his ethics. I believe in helping those less fortunate than myself and only a socialist will do that.

Craftycat Sat 30-Mar-19 10:35:24

I've just mentioned on another thread that I am so fed up with the lot of them that I am going to write 'None of The Above' on my slip next time. If everyone did this they might get the message.
I think MPs from all parties have been voting for their own jobs & futures rather than what the country wants & none of them deserve to gain by it.
It's about time they put us & the country first for a change.

quizqueen Sat 30-Mar-19 10:34:01

I could never vote Labour, Lib Dem or Green. I have been a UKIP supporter for years but, at the last GE, voted Conservative because I had to put my trust in Mrs May to see Brexit through. There was no UKIP candidate standing anyway, and my Tory 'leave supporting' MP has a 20,000+ majority anyway. How wrong I was to do that and I will never vote for the Tories again.

I have been heavily involved in local and national politics over the past few years, even standing as a candidate for the local council for UKIP and have always thought it was every citizen's duty to vote. However, now I am completely disenfranchised and know many who feel the same. I am likely, in future, to spoil my ballot paper as a protest, unless there is a strong pro Brexit candidate as a choice. I have been to a count before and I know every vote has to be scrutinised and counted so, if enough people write 'none of the above' or similar less polite words on their ballot slip, they have to be counted and the total recorded.
Democracy is dead in this country as far as I am concerned and it will take a generation to forget that. By that time, if we have not left the EU completely, we will be finished as a country and we will be just a pawn in a political game with no say in anything we do in future.