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National Unity......will it work?

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lemongrove Tue 02-Apr-19 18:44:15

Surprise announcement from T May this evening.
She will have talks with Corbyn to break the deadlock !
This means that he will have to climb down from the comfy fence now.
If she and her team suggest adding a customs union to her deal, he would be hard pressed not to agree.That could be approved by Parliament.

maryeliza54 Wed 03-Apr-19 20:29:03

Fennel the only person humiliated was NS - a man born with every conceivable unearned advantage in life who could not behave properly in the face of someone who actually worked for and earned his own way in life

Grandad1943 Wed 03-Apr-19 19:58:38

I would define a "blue collar" government as that headed by Clement Attlee in 1945.

That Labour party administration brought forward to Britain the NHS, the nationalisation of the Railways and other utility companies, a huge council house building program and much else.

That government contained figures such as Ernest Bevin as a senior minister, who never received any real education and worked as a Docker prior to entering the trades union movement and then politics.

Truly Britains greatest peacetime government in my humble opinion, which contained many people with real experience of blue-collar life.

Fennel Wed 03-Apr-19 19:10:44

"He wasn’t humiliated"
Agreed , maryeliza.
I don't think anyone could humiliate John Prescott. grin

maryeliza54 Wed 03-Apr-19 16:05:51

He wasn’t humiliated - a prat like NS couldn’t humiliate him - he was instead furious which is the right response.

Anniebach Wed 03-Apr-19 16:01:02

Yes I know, John said he was humiliated

maryeliza54 Wed 03-Apr-19 15:43:13

Re John Prescott - when he took his seat in the H of C, the Tory benches broke out in guffaws when Nicholas Soames shouted out something like ‘ I’ll have a G&T Giovanni and my friend will have the same’
(That would be NS who worked his way down from the top of the well connected family he came from btw)

Anniebach Wed 03-Apr-19 15:36:55

Alan Johnson was a postman , many wanted him to stand for leadership of the Labour Party

John Prescott was a ships steward who became deputy PM

EllanVannin Wed 03-Apr-19 15:30:36

Unity should have been the operative word before this circus ever came to town.
We don't have to like certain persons connected to the EU but for goodness sake let's remain friends for the sake of peace for the futures of our families.

The ordinary man in the street has got more nouse than some of the so-called politicians.

suzied Wed 03-Apr-19 15:22:15

Cant have anyone running the country who isn't an aristocrat - or at least has a wealthy daddy can you? God forbid they should have been a postman or cleaner. Whatever next.

lemongrove Wed 03-Apr-19 15:10:10

Yes, T May did use the phrase national unity ( which is why I put that in the OP.)
High time that all parties put national unity first btw.
Am hopeful that something good will now happen and we will leave with a deal.?

Jalima1108 Wed 03-Apr-19 14:17:38

I can't think of anything worse than a blue collar government.
I am just wondering what that means confused

Obviously not a Labour Government consisting of Jeremy Corbyn (private school, posh), Dianne Abbott (Grammar school and Cambridge), McDonnell (Grammar school, Independent School, university), Emily Thornberry (posh by any standards despite growing up in a council house), Sir Keir Starmer (grammar school, university) etc

Who or what is a 'blue collar government'
I am genuinely puzzled.

maryeliza54 Wed 03-Apr-19 14:13:52

Did TM use the term National Unity in her speech?

Jalima1108 Wed 03-Apr-19 14:11:05

How can it be National Unity when neither Scotland or NI (whose voters chose to remain) nor Wales have a voice in the 'final solution'?
and what about Gibraltar - 96% remain?

maryeliza54 Wed 03-Apr-19 14:00:24

I think I know a bit what you mean Nonnie . I sometimes catch myself thinking, right I’ve played this game long enough now, I’m going to stop. And then realise I can’t

Nonnie Wed 03-Apr-19 13:57:22

If our MPs hadn't a clue what leaving the EU meant, how can ordinary people have understood the implications?

I keep wondering if there is something going on that none of us know about, surely there must be? I just have this sense of it all being so unreal. Please can I wake up and find it was a dream?

MaizieD Wed 03-Apr-19 13:45:39

The fact that anyone thinks it will all be over once we reach 'exit' day, or that 'no deal' would be perfectly OK just demonstrates, yet again what a stupid idea it was to run a referendum on remaining in/leaving the EU when a goodly number of the electorate don't have a clue about anything outside their own experience.

And don't intend to learn because 'who needs experts'

GabriellaG54 Wed 03-Apr-19 13:32:10

Don't get the hump humptydumpty, I was only cracking a yolk.
Seriously, you don't have to be a toff or have had a private education to be what used to be termed a 'white collar worker'.
2 of my AC were educated in the private sector on scholarships/ bursaries and many 'ordinary' families with 2 working parents have scraped together (sometimes aided by GPs) the finance to allow their children to benefit from smaller class sizes and a wider education than might otherwise be the case.

crystaltipps Wed 03-Apr-19 13:13:02

If you think it will all be over if we leave with no deal or any deal actually you are forgetting all the endless tortuous negotiations that will have to be made, not to mention the inevitable general election and all the division and recriminations that will bubble up again. This will run and run.

varian Wed 03-Apr-19 12:15:06

The figures in this analysis are not my opinion, but the opinion of the Department for Exiting the European Union.

Theresa May has repeated many silly soundbites which have made matters worse.

JenniferEccles Wed 03-Apr-19 12:02:53

In your opinion varian

No-one can possibly know for sure how it would work, but this current situation has reached a stalemate so something needs to be done.

Don't forget, Theresa May repeatedly said that no deal would be better than a bad deal. It's shameful that she has backtracked on that.

varian Wed 03-Apr-19 11:53:18

Far from being over, if we leave this very sorry state would just be beginning. The trade negotiations, wrangling, chaos, political inertia, blame for the damage, and tragic waste of money would continue for the rest of our lives.

JenniferEccles Wed 03-Apr-19 11:41:05

If we leave (I refuse to use the stupid 'crash out' phrase) Friday week with no deal then this whole sorry state will be over.

Anniebach Wed 03-Apr-19 11:33:15

Was the money paid to the DUP for their party funds ?

trisher Wed 03-Apr-19 11:32:39

Dear EU
Please can we come back and play in your yard, ours isn't half as nice as we thought it would be, everyone keeps arguing and there are some rich kids trying to bully us all.

trisher Wed 03-Apr-19 11:30:16

Just what I was thinking Lily65 how on earth could a "blue collar government" be worse?
I wonder what Mrs May will be saying to JC-"strong and stable". "these are my red lines" or maybe "The DUP cost me 1 billion, how much for the Labour Party?"