What do we think of Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party?

I could make you a list of the lies as long as my arm

Please do that, THErose. Give us something concrete to debate instead of assertions and accusations. Do note that we 'lefties' do back up what we say with evidence, some evidence from you would be useful.

Silly arguments about this party or that party being liars thus enabling the accusers to disregard the views of people who do not agree with them is childish and pathetic.

If we were to all respect our opponents and treat them as honest and decent people who just have different views from them, but just as honestly held and expect them to respect us the same I think many political arguments and intractable problems from Brexit to climate change would be dealt with much more quickly with better decsions to the benefit of all.

I'm afraid honest,respect and decent have left the building.

Go Nigel!

Mr Farage told The Sunday Times: ‘My real challenge here is not the Conservatives. It’s that there are about five million people who voted Corbyn in 2017 and voted Brexit the year before, and I think that’s where I need to be.

‘My priority as leader is to go into the Labour heartlands. It’s my intention to go round south Wales, the Midlands, the North, and absolutely lay it out there, the extent to which they are being sold out [on Brexit] by Labour. I now intend to wholeheartedly target Labour lies and dishonesty in the weeks ahead.

Yes go Nigel, support for the Brexit Party is soaring.

There should be a warning notice on him saying “avoid at all costs”. As for the European Elections as I can’t vote for either Labour or Tory I have decided to vote for the only party that I am sure would represent us properly and that is the Liberal Party. It is a party I never thought I would ever vote for as I have always considered them weak bleaters but for the purpose in hand they are a safe bet. It should also send yet another message to the Government that it is probably not still the will of the people to leave the EU.

You could have voted LibDem in the last GE lovepaint as they were the only party at the time canvassing and promising a second referendum.

They only got 7% of the votes.

There is speculation that Anne Widdecombe is thinking of joining the Brexit Party! A lifelong Tory.

GabriellaG54 I know he won. I just thought they were recyclable headlines that could be used for Farage.

There is speculation that Anne Widdecombe is thinking of joining the Brexit Party! A lifelong Tory.

An extreme right wing Tory with a callous indifference to those who do not have her privileged life-style - I think she will fit very well. She can join all those who think people should starve rather than be helped, be imprisoned in the worst conditions possible rather than helped to turn their lives round, and be homeless rather than have understanding that some types of capitalism disregard our human capital just in order to make the wealth gatherers wealthier.

It seems like a sensible place for the ERG to go too but, of course, there would be arguing over who leads. I can't see Boris giving way to Farage.

With the new One Nation Group being formed - co-chaired by the formidable, yes very alarming, Nicky Morgan it seems the split of the Tories is all set up and ready to go.

IF they have Lily65 (a matter of opinion anyway) in have walked Determined, Democratic and Dynamic.

Gets my vote!

Whatever our views, one thing does appear to be true, and that is that Nigel Farage appears to be gaining popularity hand over fist. Given the views of many Gransnetters, who I assume to be fairly representative of the population at large, why is this?

You can count me out as a Farage or Brexit supporter.

Well, whatever happens at the ballot box with the EU the elections will be democratic, and should be welcomed and respected.

The fact that you might not like the outcome is neither here nor there.

You Nigel Farage supporters are being taken for a ride.

He's good at getting people angry and stirred up but he has zero plans for actually making Brexit work or sorting out the mess we're in.

His new party is funded by small donations of around £500, a huge number of these came in before he even started campaigning, there is a lot of suspicion that these were Russian money routed via US online payment systems.

The same funders are behind Brexit Party and UKIP. It's like having two soap powder brands, it's the same company and content but UKIP has been left for the explicitly racist and Brexit Party is for people who are worried they'll be seen as racist but basically support racist messages.

Farage has nothing constructive to offer, he's an attack dog. Wake up!

I think that often Determined, Democratic and Dynamic actually equates to loud-mouthed, ill-mannered yobery that has little to do with real democracy and much to do with a childish "I want".

This will mean that the Farage supporters are making more noise than anyone else at the moment. I am not convinced a real party - with seats in the HoC will ever come out of it. That means that we will have more or less half the country voting again for something that just cannot be achieved because nobody wanted to talk to the "experts" and find out what could be.

They are BessyBomba. Conned again. What do they say "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" and yet they run toward the con.

The leave voters have no idea of the art of the possible and are determined to have the impossible or destroy our country. As impossible is available we can see what they will do to us.

It has been stated on this forum previously, but I feel that with a growing number of people now the situation with the supporters/followers of the Brexit party resembles very much those that surrounded the National Socialist Party in Germany in the early 1930s.

In the Brexit Party, we have again a political organisation based around one person and his thinking which is based on populism and little else. Farrage it seems will not allow Constituency parties or associations to form, but will instead "appoint" candidates himself to represent his party at elections.

The Brexit Party also has no central management or policy-making committee(s), as it would seem that all policies will be formed out of the thoughts of Nigel Farage. In that, I am wondering if he will have printed a little red book with all his thinking laid out in that. No doubt his devoted awe-struck followers which we see on this forum will be buying up those books in their thousands.

The Brexit party via Mr Farage and his devotee followers also has no answers to the many questions asked of them. Those questions can surround the Irish border issue in the light of a British WTO exit from European Union, or what he/they have to say to the many thousand employed in industries such as vehicle manufacturing or transport which will have their jobs hugely threatened in a WTO Brexit.

In the above, we would seem to have a new party based around the adulation of one person and his thinking, who in that has no clear thoughts onthe very real problems Britain would face following his recommended WTO Brexit.

As stated, the above brings forward a considerable resemblance to 1930s Germany and all that situation held for the future of that country and the world. Hopefully, in Britain, this political "anomaly" will quickly disperse in the light of reasoned argument, when in the future it will be looked back on as "a number of sheep being led around by a Donkey".

How on earth can people vote for the Brexit party.....might as well be the Table party or the Save the Tiger party or anything. What a load of nonsense.

Good Post Grandad, & sadly many people will, because he appeals to emotions not logic.
( My emotions have definitely been stirred by him ,ranging between ??to ?)

THErose5 says " I am a member of the Brexit party. "

But is she?

Nigel Farage has almost total control over the new Brexit Party, with power to appoint its governing board and all but no membership to keep him in check, it is understood.

The party – which polls suggest could win the European elections – formed in January and registered last week. While more than 100,000 people have signed up to be registered supporters, it is not yet allowing them to become formal members with power to vote on the leadership.

It is understood only a handful of people have actual membership of the Brexit party, which is a skeleton operation as it gears up to fight its first election at the European polls.

The party’s constitution, released under freedom of information laws, also reveals Farage’s power over the project, with the leader having the ability to appoint four to eight board members and the chairman.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/18/nigel-farage-has-near-total-control-of-brexit-party-constitution-suggests

Perhaps THErose5 is one of the elite handful of members personally appointed by Farage. Or perhaps, although she may think she is a member, she is actually one of the large number of Farage fans who have given him money to become "registered supporters" but have no say regarding policy, leadership, candidates, how their money is spent or anything else.

Reading the article you linked Varian, I would be surprised if "Brexit, the Party" don't get looked into, not only re the electoral laws but also on money laundering. I wonder how you can track the PayPal payments and how many times one person has paid by this method.

On here, I must seem a poor deluded fool, easily conned.

Out there in the real world, there are a lot more of us then! I for one am sick and tired of being patronised.

We are where we are. We shall see where this ends up.

We will be leaving the EU of that I feel certain!

I seem to remember posts telling us we would be certain to leave the EU on (whatever date it was that has long since gone).

Only a fool would say they are certain about what will happen now.

but he has zero plans for actually making Brexit work or sorting out the mess we're in

Ha! That made me laugh.

So, Corbyn does? May does? Cable does?

What a crock...!!!

The Brexit Party has become VERY popular with people from ALL WALKS OF LIFE who feel Westminster/Parliament is incapable of leading the country anywhere. Our MPs have the capability of getting themselves to the Commons bar for a chin wag and cheap ale! They cannot manage Brexit. The last three years have revealed that. It's been farcical, a disgrace.

I am more than ashamed of most of the people we have elected to serve us. As far as leaving the EU is concerned, the UK has been betrayed by a Remainer Parliament.

Anyone could lead the Brexit Party - even Coco the Clown and he'd be a better bet than May - or turncoat Corbyn - who has without doubt betrayed the working classes and Brexit supporters by effectively dropping all the anti-EU principles he stood by and ranted about for years - to become a Remainer when he sniffed power. What a complete fraud he is.

Thank goodness someone speaks for those who feel betrayed, unheard. The liberal elite, politicians, those in academia and their ivory towers, the Islington set, the middle classes, the BBC, the moneyed, capitalists needing cheap labour - they might sneer at Brexiteers and devote column inches to putting down the result of the referendum, and the people who voted to Leave, but all Farage has done is bring together a party for those who voted to LEAVE. There is no other agenda other than Brexit - leaving the EU.

Given the complete shambles those WITH power have made of the negotiations, Farage with his passion to free us from the shackles of Brussels has to be a good bet for millions of us. He shares our anger.

The haters will hate him, let them. Remainers will post just as furiously to smear his character too. Let them.

I'll vote for a Brexit Party candidate if I get the chance, as should every person who voted to LEAVE the EU.

Millions of us, just in case you have forgotten.