What do we think of Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party?

Ginny42 I suppose Brussels must be grateful to us for keeping him away!
Thanks for the info. The connections are worrying and i would imagine that many others are meeting backstage, looking at Trump's victory and planning their own campaign. It is worrying. Racism and the right wing are on the rise everywhere.

trisher

I totally agree with your last post. I think the divide is between the law abiding and those who are not. As I said good tolerant people all faiths and none can happily co exist together. And do. They certainly do in handsworth I can’t speak for other areas.

urmstrongran

Agree with you too

I'm trying Urmstongran

It’s not about Conservatives, this has been going on for decades, under different governments, left and right. I totally agree GG’s that all governments have failed to recognise the problem, because they live far away from any such areas. Divided society is not something to worry them, they prefer to pretend it doesn’t exist. But it’s left and right!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nigel-farage-oldham_uk_5cc6d94ce4b08e4e3484faa2?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKC2

Maybe worth a look.

Farage is a proven liar. Here are more lies to add to the list.

But deep divisions between for example, Indian and Asian communities are a fact of life. Add into the mix young male hotheads and tensions can boil over as demonstrated by the surge in knife crime in London

I quite genuinely don't understand this. Do you mean there is division in Indian communities and there is division in Asian communities or the 2 don't get along? Isn't India a part of Asia?

I think the many of the knife crime cases in London involve gangs of mainly young , black men?

When I used to value houses in Leeds I often used to go to the Indian, Pakistani and Caribbean areas of the city. The Indians and Pakistanis disliked each other and both communities disliked the West Indians. I'm afraid prejudice exists in pretty well all communities.

Lily65
Are you not aware of what happened in the partition of India?

Yes, and it was very recent- so many people still alive now.

petra, yes thanks. I didn't understand the point and now I do. There is bad feeling between some members of some communities.

Working with people from different backgrounds I have a basic knowledge of their history.

If there is hostility between Indian and Pakistani communities it's for reasons similar to hostility we saw in Ireland pre-Good Friday agreement.
As petra asked, do you know what happened in the sub-continent in 1948?
Very sad. Undesirable, but there is a rationale behind it.

The hostility in Ireland goes back to the time of the Normans. The specific hostility in Ulster goes back to the Flight of the Earls in the late 17th century. The native Irish were driven beyond the Pale (that is where the phrase comes from) and land and farms within the Pale, most of Ulster, was granted to protestant immigrants from Britain, the majority of whom came from Scotland.

Although the Irish problem is always seen as a religious problem, it is actually a conflict between the dispossessed and the usurpers, in essence a colonial war. It is just that the the dispossessed clung to their religion as a sign of defiance and the colonial power imposed their power by trying to impose their religion.

Although the 1948 religious divide of India and Pakistan looks superficially similar, I think the roots of the conflict are different.

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Granny23
From your link the biggest waste of eu resouses is Nigel Farage's salary
I would suggest the fact that MEPs can claim tens of thousands pounds without showing a single invoice.
Then we have the travelling circus every month at a cost of £130 mil ( 2014 )
I would say that just these two 'practices' trump Farages salary.

It's a great pity nobody could point out in a calm and measured way some of the overspending done by the EU and how to counteract it.

Instead we have NF going on about Oldham and people who can't speak English.

lilly65
There is no way to counteract it. Decent MEPs have tried.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/25/mep-expenses-eu-court-ruling

With regard to Asians, Indians, etc. the proprietor of one of our local Chinese restaurants refers to the Indian/Pakistani parents at the school his daughter used to attend as "the Asians".

And he doesn't mean it kindly.

I'd put your wooden spoon away grumppa

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/16/nigel-farage-defends-ukip-breaking-point-poster-queue-of-migrants

Utterly sickening.

Brexit has cost the British economy £66bn in just under three years, or around £1,000 for every person in the country, a report has found.

As deadlock in Westminster continues, businesses have slashed investment and around 3 per cent has been wiped off GDP, according to Standard & Poor’s.

It calculated that since the June 2016 referendum the UK has missed out on £550m of economic growth per week.

A sharp drop in the value of the pound has caused much of the damage by reducing people’s purchasing power, S&P said. Weaker sterling has meant imports are more expensive, with rising prices passed on to consumers.

“Household spending would have been considerably stronger - in line with GDP - had the referendum not occurred,” S&P said in its report, Countdown To Brexit: What Might Have Been For The UK Economy.

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-cost-how-much-uk-economy-money-spent-a8854726.html

I think it's fantastic. ??
I, for one, am sick of the ?? race. Workers and toffs.
The former - struggling, the latter - sitting in their mansions swilling Petrus, at least, that's how a large majority of GN comments paint the picture.
IMO, NF and the Brexit Party is the change this country needs. A proper challenge to the stale rhetoric we've been subject to for decade after decade...zzzzz ?
The OP asked the question.
That is my answer.

GG tut tut, it’s Château Pétrus - do get it right?