What do we think of Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party?

It could be Lily65. Someone I know voted leave because her sister told her there were too many Somalis (black people) in Bristol.

Farage/Europe/ White people????? What the hell has Oldham got to do with it?

Unless it's about colour??

population who actually appreciated British rule.

What exactly did " they" appreciate?

They have no idea and no say. They are turkeys not only voting for Xmas, but paying to bring it on.

Grandad Farage knows exactly what his strategy is. His supporters however have no idea judging by what I have read.

Urmstongran Quote [ That’s why Nigel Farage speaks my language! Sorry. But it’s true for me. ] End Quote.

So, Urmstongran, when Nigel Farage states that "streets of Oldham are split along racial lines" and that town is a "completely divided society", he speaks for you.

The descendants of the original immigrants to Oldham are in many cases second, third or even fourth generation being born out of those who initially arrived on our shores and settled in that Town. Therefore those descendants are as British in their residency as anyone who may claim that in the UK. They may dress differently to the majority, worship differently than is traditional, but they are British and part of what has become a great diversified nation.

Therefore, to bring forward racial comments in the way Nigel Farage has done in his recent speech in the United States is nothing short of an attempt to place one British Citizen against another. In that, everyone should ask what is to be gained by trying to raise ethnic tensions in Britain other than warped minds believing that such a situation would be to the benefit of the one man led Farage Brexit party.

Such was the situation in Germany in the 1930s when the sole leader of the National Socialist Party blamed minority groups for all that was wrong in that state at that time.

Surely, no one should need reminding of how that tirade against minorities developed and eventually ended in tragedy for the entire German nation and in that the whole world.

History has a habit of repeating itself and Farage should consider very carefully what he is bringing forward. However, with Farage, I feel that is unlikely to happen.

if it has nothing to do with NF why does he choose to pontificate about it on a visit to the US

Day6, may I ask why you were curious about the shopkeeper having Brexit parties stickers in his window?

er no Joels nan,who went there first? Rule Britannia and the Empire. We poked our noses in, then realised we needed factory workers for cotton factories.

Have I ever been to Oldham? Well yes, I have family there.

Lily65
Those who emigrated from the East and West Indies were not 'brought' here. They are economic migrants who took up the offer of employment. Thousands of Brits did exactly the same around the same time migrating to Australia to build their mining industries. Unlike the migrants who came here who went straight into the communities, those who emigrated to Australia on the whole went into work camps.
Many of those who arrived became part of the working class communities in the towns where they worked, however a specific sector never mixed and still to this day do not mix. If anything they are more entrenched in their enclaves and yes, in most northern mill towns there are communities leading seperate lives. You can move from Europe to Asia just by crossing a road.
Also, I think if you go to the country of origin, there is a large percentage of the population who actually appreciated British rule...yes they do. If we were so bad, why do they want to come and live amongst us?
Anyway, this has little to do with Brexit or I would imagine Farage.

"remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you... "

Um. Describing anyone who doesn't vote Labour, written by a left-winger.

Come on, we recognise bias when we see it.

ALL of us are decent. I know of no one, not one person who fits that brief, one of cleansing, clearing out the undesirables.

Left wing Hillary Clinton called Americans who didn't vote for her 'deplorables' and suggested a vote for her was more worthwhile than other votes, and didn't left wing Emily Thornberry have to resign from the Labour front bench after sneering at the St George flag and people with white vans - the very people Labour are supposed to understand?

The left are fascist too, imo. Don't try to paint them as superior types.

Many left-wingers are full of hatred for those they don't like - Conservatives, for example. Remember the hanging of Tory effigies - suspended from a bridge at the time of the Conservative Party Conference, and the placards, "The only good Tory is a dead Tory"?

Have you conveniently forgotten that left wing hatred and fascism, GracesGran?

Yes, I'm afraid he was

That shopkeeper was also hoodwinked, eh, *
Firecracker?*

For Urmstongran. This is what rattles me.

A poem by Michael Rosen
Fascism: I sometimes fear...

I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

An Asian shopkeeper locally has Brexit Party stickers in his window. I commented when I bought the Sunday newspapers, and he said "Well I won't vote for what we already have."

I think many share his feelings.

I hope the odds are correct Urmston

Many people feel they have been cheated, lied to, and forgotten by the people they have previously elected. I think the Conservative Party is broken and Labour has never been united. It is the home for the far left/militant faction now.

If nothing else, the Brexit fiasco and the dreadful game playing by our current MPs has highlighted the need for a party which will draw support from all walks of life, all backgrounds.

Hopefully the Brexit Party will do that. People who want to live in a UK that is more united, less at war with each other, less 'political' but more practical, will be properly and fairly represented.

Headline just now in the Daily Mail:

Support for the Tories at just 13% compared to 28% for Mr Farage's Brexit Party.

I think there’s going to be a tsunami of support for the Brexit Party. Wonder what the bookies odds are? They are usually on the money.

Well the two new Brexit Party candidates don't share your views about Nigel Farage, Louis Stedman a gay, black man who says he definitely knew what he was voting for when he voted Leave and Elizabeth Babade a Nigerian born Lawyer both standing for the Brexit Party in the EU elections have they been hoodwinked as well.

Have you actually walked around Oldham Lily65?

As regards the government and democracy I don’t think those two words belong in the same sentence these days! That’s why Nigel Farage speaks my language!

Sorry. But it’s true for me.

That’s why he’s rattling a few on here and in the HoC.

Why do other member states feel so positive about staying in the EU?

There is huge support for EU membership across the bloc, a poll by Kantar has found. The survey looked at public opinion in the 28 member states and found that, in most, support for staying in the EU was over 80 per cent.

In only one country apart from the UK, the Czech Republic, was support lower than 70 per cent – but a preference to remain in the EU was still overwhelmingly ahead of any desire to leave.

In all countries where there were older polls to compare with, there was a shift towards remain.

www.independent.co.uk/independentminds/brexit-explained/brexit-eu-member-states-positive-public-opinion-stay-a8888331.html

Oldham brought people in from the a place we pillaged and raped and exploited.......brought them here from rural India and Pakistan to work in the mills and now Farage has the audacity to talk about separate streets??

I could introduce you, Grandad1943, to people who back him because they believe what he is saying to be totally true and that he is simply voicing what they "know".

I have no idea how you get through to them that they have been fed misinformation in the typically fascist way of dividing society against itself.

Those that believe that the Nigel Farage brexit party is the answer to all Britain's problems should look to the speech he made recently in the United States in regard to his perceived UK racial problems.

In that address, he claimed that entire streets of Oldham in Greater Manchester are split along racial lines when he spoke at Lock Haven University in rural Pennsylvania.

The Brexit Party leader said Oldham was a ‘divided society in his talk in Lock Haven, a town with a population of 9,200 people, which seemed an unlikely venue to raise such a matter, but the county is full of Trump supporters and heads were nodding as Mr Farage spoke.

What does Farage believe he is achieving in telling these untruths regarding Britain to an American Right-wing audience. Britain has been accepting immigrants from all parts of the world since the 1960s. They are now an integral part of Britain's Society, and nothing will change that. Surely, Farage should have been speaking on how the very successful integration that the UK has achieved with those arriving on our shores can be further improved to the benefit of all.

However, Farage decided to denigrate Britain and those achievements, which leaves many wondering I am sure if Farage would wish to see ethnic tensions rise in Britain, as that in his warped mind may benefit his party he feels.

Surely what this man and his party are can now be seen for precisely what it is, and how can anyone support that.

A link to the Farrage speech can be found by following this link:-
carmonreport.com/world-news/oldham-streets-split-along-racial-lines-claims-nigel-farage/

I "borrowed" it from my own post on another thread Maddy so not too many sins I hope Thank you for your reply to it.

Whatever your particular view, who could possibly disagree with GG’s post, or actually the part of her post that she ‘borrowed.’ It is so true.