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What do we think of Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party?

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Kandinsky Sat 13-Apr-19 09:17:01

Whatever side of the debate you’re on he is very watchable.

I wonder how they’ll do in the elections ( if we have them )

GracesGranMK3 Sun 12-May-19 14:31:52

It is so easy not to bother thinking sarahellenwhitney and that is what the funny little man is giving people as there is no reality in his offer at all.

Sussexborn Sun 12-May-19 14:37:23

His name surely his pronunciation?

Really scraping the barrel with the insults now!

Day6 Sun 12-May-19 14:50:09

^All they have to do work the crowds up into a state of baying hatred for their perceived 'enemies6

Oh for goodness sake. Remainers are in denial, aren't they? It's quite amusing.

You do realise that millions and millions of the electorate have been in a state of anger and rage because of the way our Remain parliament has totally ignored the result of the referendum - as though Leave voters just don't count?

We have been swept aside as if Corbyn, May, Cable and money-bags Gina Miller have declared e must remian in the EU.

How do you expect, in a democracy, Leave voters to feel?

Westminster has given birth to the Brexit Party. And thank goodness Farage has the strength, rhetoric and means to address that anger and disconetent. He is not flaming it - he has provided a balm, a home for 17 million plus Leave voters.

And Remainers hate it.grin

Sadly, they are now thinking of different ways in which to belittle those who applaud Farage for doing something, and standing up to the traitors in Parliament. Whether he is successful or not doesn't really matter to me. (I hope he is, by the way.)

What is important is that we have not let the absolutely shameful betrayal of Leave voters go unchecked.

More power to his elbow!

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-May-19 15:03:42

Farage on Marr

“How dare you ask me about things I’ve said in the past”

Difficult asking him anything else as he has nothing to say about his party’s future.

What do we know about the characteristics of authoritarians?
The tell you that they can be trusted, but won’t tell you what they will do if elected. They then get enraged when you have the impertinence to ask them questions that they don’t wont to answer.

Grandad1943 Sun 12-May-19 15:06:23

Well, think the Farage performance on the BBC 1 Andrew Marr show this morning along with his action in walking away from a road traffic accident he was involved in while not even enquiring into the wellbeing of a thirteen-month-old child in the other car demonstrates comprehensively just what the character of Nigel Farage really is.

A man fit to lead this nation in any role, what a joke.

Boosgran Sun 12-May-19 15:08:40

Well said Day6 - completely agree with you!

Day6 Sun 12-May-19 15:19:44

Well, if people want to pick holes in party leaders, we could start with the sainted Steptoe, beloved by left wingers everywhere. (I have used a different name for him. Remainers say name changes are OK)

Corbyn has many, many skeletons in his cupboard, doesn't he, yet those decrying Farage see him with his hatred (of the UK it would seem, given the UK's enemies are his 'friends') as a fit person to run the country.

There are very few politicians/people who are squeaky clean. Character assassination is now the name of Remainers desperate new game.

Interesting. grin

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-May-19 15:21:52

Ask yourself if Farage could form a government. Of course this one trick pony can’t. Imagine a cabinet with Claire Fox, Neil Hamilton and Ann Widdicombe. In fact he’s even changed his mind on the one trick he stood for. Norway was his ideal model, now its no deal, but he is utterly clueless how this can be achieved. He is now talking about somehow retaining EU membership.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-May-19 15:26:20

This is his fourth or fifth appearance on the bbc in the last 10 days and in his discomfort at actually being asked questions by Marr about his previous statements he accused the bbc of not being interested in him??

varian Sun 12-May-19 15:43:57

The BBC have virtually created Farage, relentlessly promoting him, having him on QT no less than 29 times in the years before the 2016 and refusing to invite any other MEP apart from Tory brextreemist Daniel Hannan, who was on once.

This was not Andrew Marr at his best. Although he is probably less right-wing than most of the BBC political staff (Andrew Neil, Nick Timpson, Laura Kuenssberg, John Humphries), he nevertheless was obviously under instructions to let liar Farage off as lightly as possible. Even so Farage showed himself up as an angry, mendacious, ignorant, self-absorbed bully. Not that I would expect any of his followers to be put off by that. They seem to lap it up.

If you want to hear a much better political interview, listen to LBC (leave supporting) DJ Iain Dale interviewing LibDem Deputy Leader Jo Swinson. A much more civilised and informative encounter from the company which has actually given Farage his own show.

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/iain-dale/iain-dale-on-sunday-12-may-2019/

No wonder our once-respected national broadcaster is widely known as the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation.

Grandad1943 Sun 12-May-19 16:05:22

Day6 as someone who obviously worships the ground that Nigel Farage walks on, surely even you must see that walking away from a road traffic accident without even inquiring about the welfare of a thirteen-month-old child in the other vehicle is totally wrong.

Farage has stated be did not hear the "screams" of the child still in the other car when he walked away......absolutely disgusting.

He obviously also did not wish to hear the questions in regard to his past statements on many matters this morning on the Andrew Marr program. However, that pales into insignificance when compared to his cowardly response and actions in regard to the road traffic accident.

Some leader.

Dinahmo Sun 12-May-19 16:05:56

Day6 - you do realise don't you that millions and millions of Remain voters are in absolute despair about what is happening to the country. I dare say that millions of Leave voters were angry before the referendum was suggested. Why were they angry? Because of austerity not the EU. It would appear from the comments in various journals and forums during the years since the referendum that not many of us knew much Europe beforehand and yet now the EU is the source of all our woes. Well it's not.

Day6 Sun 12-May-19 16:41:11

Day6 as someone who obviously worships the ground that Nigel Farage walks on,

Ha ha. Nice try Grandad, but your words.

I worship no one.
I am grateful to him for acknowledging Leavers have been short changed and need a voice. That's all.

I support his stance, as do millions of us - 17.5 million people.

As I said before, very few people in public office stand up to close scrutiny. Corbyn doesn't does he, or Blair, or Olly Robbins. I could go on.

The latest slur is that Farage supporters are awful and more.

Do carry on. Your game has been sussed. Leavers are used to the abuse. Farage is very good in front of the camera, isn't he? I suspect that is another cause for Remainer outrage.

Day6 Sun 12-May-19 16:49:05

Why were they angry? Because of austerity not the EU.

How on earth can you claim to speak for the people of the UK, millions of them who voted to leave the UK? We had two choices, remain or leave, By your logic Remainers were OK with austerity.

There is austerity throughout Europe, driven by, for one thing, EU employment practices which keep the wages of the migrant workforce very low. That has had a knock on effect in all member states. Labour's Bob Crow, the late Union leader picked up on that long before our membership was questioned.

Austerity didn't drive the dislike of Brussels interference, of the EU calling the shots and determining how the UK should operate.

But carry on believing it. Anger regarding the EU was active long before the referendum.

Grandad1943 Sun 12-May-19 16:53:30

Day6, Farage is certainly not very good when it comes to road traffic accidents, is he? Do you feel that someone who is not prepared to even inquire into the welfare of others in such situations (especially very young children) and just walks away leaving others to give help and sort the situation out, should have the support of this nation in any matter?

crystaltipps Sun 12-May-19 17:06:10

NF lovers wouldn’t care if their hero was an axe murderer. Shame he doesn’t get as incensed over climate change and the degradation of the planet by humans. But he doesn’t believe in that

MaizieD Sun 12-May-19 17:27:43

Austerity didn't drive the dislike of Brussels interference, of the EU calling the shots and determining how the UK should operate.

If you look at polling in the decade before the referendum you will see that about 90% of the UK population couldn't have given a flying f*ck about the EU. It wasn't until Dodgy Dave decided to call the referendum, to try to keep the tory party intact, and Farage and his ilk got going with the mendacious drivel (as exemplified in the above quote) that the UK started take any interest at all.

So please don't try to convince us that 17.4 million UK citizens have been itching to leave the EU for the last 40 years. That's just more drivel...

Bridgeit Sun 12-May-19 17:35:12

Day6, please tell me you have some concerns about Nigel Farage however slight they maybe
From reading your posts over the years I cannot believe that you don’t have any niggling doubts whatsoever ?

crystaltipps Sun 12-May-19 17:46:13

Tell them to vote for unicorns & when the unicorns don’t arrive, tell them to express their anger by voting for you again. That’s how a fact-free vanity project with no policies gets to top the polls.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-May-19 17:52:02

Watching the news tonight about the EU elections. I notice Bannon standing next to Le Pen. Bannon and Farage very friendly, work closely together.

crystaltipps Sun 12-May-19 17:56:22

Why won’t Nige tell us his current policies on NHS, climate change, gun control, Russia etc? And whether they have changed? Shouldn’t the man who wants to take back control tell us?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-May-19 18:00:43

From what Farage has said, I think we can be reasonably confident about what his policies be if he ever formed a government.

We know that he is keen to introduce “private capital” into the NHS.
We know for sure that he is a strong supporter of a low tax economy.
He is a strong supporter of a small state.
He is a strong supporter of stopping immigration
He is a strong supporter of a low regulation economy.
He is definately not keen on maternity leave and payments.

Somethings to expect if he gains power.

Firecracker123 Sun 12-May-19 18:20:52

Well love him or hate him he's got Labour and the Conservatives running scared and all the Remainers on GN as well it seems to me.

Day6 Sun 12-May-19 18:32:39

Yup, spot on Firecracker.

MaizieD Sun 12-May-19 18:36:51

Not scared, Firecracker because the mob following Farage appears to be too stupid to understand that electing Brexit Party MEPs will have absolutely no effect on the UK domestic government because MEPs, (guess what, the clue is in the name Member of the European Parliament), only have any influence in the European Parliament (if they bother to turn up, of course). So what is there to be scared of? Nige can't have any say over UK domestic policy, thank God.

I'd be even less scared if it were a General Election because the one man party would find it very difficult to find, let alone field, candidates in every constituency and doesn't have any nationwide party machine to run a campaign.

What we are doing on this forum is expressing our contempt for a vile human being and amazement that 30% of the populace has absolutely no idea about how politics and democracy work.

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