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Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

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crystaltipps Wed 17-Apr-19 08:28:34

There has been so far 3 days of climate change protests in Central London and other locations. They’ve disrupted traffic and inconvenienced a few, but have been in the main peaceful and has had a festival atmosphere. It looks like these protests will continue. Personally I feel climate change is a really important issue and should be the one that our esteemed politicians should be acting on and discussing but they aren’t. I’m in no way part of this group but, with some reservations, applaud their efforts and hope it does bring the issue to the fore. It does highlight how far our police resources are stretched that they can’t be stopped though. If you don’t live or work in the capital you probably don’t care about the protest , but hopefully you do care about the issues, and these protests it may be coming to a town near you. What do others think?

Urmstongran Thu 18-Apr-19 19:02:24

You’re right of course varian
But this whole concept is mind boggling.

For instance, imagine if everyone signed a pledge not to buy any new stuff in the next 12 months. We could do it if we tried.

But how would that impact on the people whose livelihoods depend on us buying such stuff? I’d feel guilty in a different way then!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 18-Apr-19 19:07:42

Urmstongran that is a fair point, some countries/communities rely on our consumerism whether it be goods or holidays.

Perhaps the starting point should be with them, trying to make them “greener” and more eco aware. Look towards sustainability in goods and tourism.

Urmstongran Thu 18-Apr-19 19:12:30

My brain is starting to hurt just thinking about this problem. It’s multi layered and very complicated.
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Mycatisahacker Thu 18-Apr-19 19:27:10

GabriellaG54

Er thanks! I love posters who correct spellings. It really tells me so much about them. wink

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 19:28:51

Well, I'm proud of him.

Grammaretto Thu 18-Apr-19 19:31:38

I haven't read all the posts but just wanted to say that if you believe strongly in something even if you don't think you can make a difference, it is worth making your voice heard. Lots of drops in the ocean. Lots of voices in the choir can effect change.
I used to demonstrate when I was younger and now our DC and DGC get involved and I am glad.
It can be personally empowering too. Far better than sitting at home wringing your hands in hopeless despair.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 19:35:28

Well said Gramaretto.

Mycatisahacker Thu 18-Apr-19 19:38:25

He does look a lovely lad Gonegirl’ to be fair. And of course rather he there than not giving a toss about the planet.

I just feel this disruption has been so bad and now costing jobs and livelihoods it’s gone too far.

If flights are disrupted then people will start to ignore the message in anger at the messengers.

Flash demos are better! Short and sweet.

You have to take people with you not alienate them.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 19:48:58

I don't think they should disrupt Heathrow.

GS is at Marble Arch, the police approved place. And he's found his niche with the welfare team. Right up his street. grin

Callistemon Thu 18-Apr-19 19:54:38

Gonegirl DGD (a few years younger than your DGS and still at primary school) is very 'on-message' regarding this.

All I have to say now is -
I agree with their message
but not necessarily with their methods.

janeainsworth Thu 18-Apr-19 19:58:32

Your GS looks lovely Gonegirl.
All power to him.

Mycatisahacker Thu 18-Apr-19 20:00:10

Yes exactly the message is of course right but the method lasting this long is not.

I think targeting Heathrow would be extremely counter productive.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 20:15:17

Thanks ja. I think he has gone into Scout Camp mode up there now. He'll probably be doing everyone a fry-up in the morning. grin

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 20:17:00

Calli yeah, his younger brother would love to be up there with him, but he is being kept firmly at granny's house!

Callistemon Thu 18-Apr-19 20:22:33

DGD is in charge of the school recycling.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 20:24:08

That's really good. It's lovely how they do care.

janipat Thu 18-Apr-19 20:46:21

Gonegirl are you saying that your grandson and his fellow protestors are aware that they are hurting some of the poorest ( and probably least polluting) people and their families, but don't actually care?
Some of the posts on here are beyond ludicrous. Criticise the methods these protestors are employing and you're obviously one of the worst polluters and don't care about the world? There is absolutely no logic behind such statements.
One of the easiest things any individual can do to make a difference is to go vegan, are these protestors willing to do that? Somehow I doubt it.

crystaltipps Thu 18-Apr-19 20:50:18

It iscwrong to say that “millions” can’t get to work. Probably no one cannot get to work even if it takes them a wee bit longer, on the other hand it’s great to walk down Oxford and Regents Street without any traffic. Brings to the fore how there is just too much traffic. The atmosphere is positive. The protesters are peaceful and there’s no violence towards the police, unlike other protests. Oh but maybe it’s too middle class.

crystaltipps Thu 18-Apr-19 20:51:24

Lots of them are vegan actually but they’ll get bashed for that no doubt.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 21:02:17

janipat when did I actually say, or insinuate that? My GS is focussed on the environment. He is in the Marble Arch part of the demo. He certainly doesn't want to harm anyone, and he is not doing so.

And now, if you don't mind, I don't want to discuss this you anymore.

Gonegirl Thu 18-Apr-19 21:06:51

Daughter is trying out some vegan recipes! I bought her the Bish Bash Bosh book for Xmas. grin

janipat Thu 18-Apr-19 21:13:50

crystaltips why on earth would anyone bash someone for being vegan? It's not something that affects or impacts on anybody else, but is so much better for the planet.

We do not exist in isolation, and no matter how much we may think our decisions are the right ones, the impact they make on others can't just be dismissed with a shrug.

GabriellaG54 Thu 18-Apr-19 21:37:26

Does he work or is he at uni Gonegirl?

GabriellaG54 Thu 18-Apr-19 21:41:37

As long as they don't leave any mess whatsoever.
BTW.. have they organised a toilet block or are they using the bushes?
Getting washed?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 18-Apr-19 21:54:42

Gabriella......hadn’t considered their ablutions? Hopefully they will clear up/recycle their debris.