Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

janipat veganism isn’t necessarily the answer.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/25/veganism-intensively-farmed-meat-dairy-soya-maize

Gabriella he's still at school, doing his A levels.

They have compost toilets.

Doubt if he cares too much about washing.

Well can I add as I completely disagree with this action GoneGirl your grandson looks a lovely lad.

But please have a conversation.

Not about climate change but about the immediate problem of job losses! About those not paid unless they work?

The carers who can’t care and the disabled who need to drive.

He will understand and hopefully take on board

Go home now and let London get back to work.

Just as I a,ways said , climate change hypocrites.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6938095/Dame-Emma-jets-5-400-miles-green-is.html

Glad none of mine look like the great unwashed.
Many of them look like 70s hippies.

janipat vegans are always getting bashed for their choices . So it will be “oh those protesters are just layabout hippy vegans who are just having a jolly, none of them care about the environment really so I can just ignore what they are saying. They should be shopping at Primark and having a life like me.” That’s the message I’m getting from you guys. I say hats off to the peaceful, at least they are bringing the most important issue out there. The fact that a lot of people will just criticise them for what they are wearing/ eating etc in order to ignore the issue is sad.

I don't shop at Primark.I'm not vegan although have cut down on meat considerably and eat it only a couple of times a week.I reduce,reuse,recycle and always have because I hate wasting anything.I care passionately about wildlife ,nature and the future of our planet.I have solar panels,an electric car.I still feel powerless.In some ways I applaud anyone drawing attention to climate change. I'm not a natural protester.Plus I'm self employed and simply couldn't take off for a few days in London without seriously annoying my customers and damaging my business.
I'm sure a lot of ordinary working people in London believe Climate change is a problem.But still need to get that bus to work or their bills won't get paid at the end of the month.And Emma Thompson stepping off a plane from L.A. and spouting forth does nothing to help ER as far as I'm concerned.By far our best local councillor is from the Green Party.They get my vote.
And personally I don't begrudge David Attenborough' flights around the world to bring the wonders of nature into my home.Seeing things on TV I would never see in my lifetime in reality ,highlighting how precious our planet is.I can accept that.I think of him as a natural world ambassador.It is his job to inform us.Most of his lifetimes work was done before even he knew the massive impact our lifestyles were having.

The suffragettes were loudly criticised for being a load of posh women with nothing better to do, they were arrested and imprisoned - this rings some bells here. History was on their side though. Hopefully the same with these protesters.

Some of them look like ageing hippies. What’s with the ‘Ban the Bomb’ earrings one lady (about 70y) was wearing? They’re all having a renaissance. Have you seen their clothes? Retro from the 1960’s!

And seriously, super gluing your hand to the pavement? I couldn’t do that. What if she needs a pee?? Maybe someone in her group has a tube of something to ‘unstick’ her?

Urmstongran, blame the messengers but ignore their message

I am hoping that David Attenborough last night will have more impact although I think he was preaching to the converted.

Actually I was a bit mean there. It really doesn’t matter what they wear.

It’s good that people care enough to heighten our awareness and remind our politicians to do the right things by our planet. Sadly, money and big business runs the world, celebrities hop on and off planes like we use buses and consumerism is the new religion so change will be incrementally slow.

Why is it being assumed that anyone who doesn't support the protesters doesn't care about climate change? I fully support the message but I don't think they are going about gaining support the right way. For any change to take place the support of the general public is needed - this action will have the opposite affect.

So far the police are in control at Terminal 2 & 3 where the few protesters are outside and surrounded so as not to cause any disruption.

It seems the climate protesters have now moved on to Heathrow, good to know Emma Thompson's flight got in just in time without any disruption. Clearly as specified by one of their spokespeople her flight was a prime example of "emergency travel" what could be more urgent than clocking up over 5000 air miles to protest, among other outrages, about unnecessary air travel. Hopefully, she is there with the good people at Heathrow today to righteously point that out to those taking "non emergency travel" for family holidays etc., selfish people

janeainsworth thank you for that link, very interesting reading. I'm not vegan, not even vegetarian, but I do limit my meat eating.

gillybob With regards to Emma Thompson I read her spokesman said she had to fly home anyway, just did it a bit earlier than originally planned. Then went on to say that flying is the only realistic option for transglobal travel at the moment. So OK for her, but not the rest of us, not even those like me who only fly once a year to see my grandchildren.

Exactly Terribull she is yet another example of climate change hypocrisy!

Aaah but you see janipat your once a year trip to see your DGC would be classed as non essential, whereas someone like ET and the rest of the Climate change hypocrites 100’s of flights a year ( or whatever ) would be classed as VERY essential , emergencies even ! If it didn’t make me do bloody mad it would be almost laughable !

The glory of the protest is that it seems to have made those most irritated by them talking about it the most?.

All power to the eco- warriors.

I have a DS an environmental scientist, whose work is with the environment and in particular flooding. He sees the result of climate change every day, and considers it to be the biggest challenge to the world.

"Glad none of mine look like the great unwashed."

Another nasty comment from*GabriellaG54*. God! What a piece of work!

flying is the only realistic option for transglobal travel" .....Well is it! that's got me thinking Ben Fogle got across the Atlantic in a rowing boat, I mean admittedly it took longer, but what if we adopted the Viking mode of travel.........Ben Fogle x a 100 or so fit young men, or women for that matter all furiously rowing to get conscientious global travelers to their required destinations. Remember you heard it here first. Leif Ericson managed it when he crossed the Atlantic to Greenland or somewhere, I mean he might have been heard to utter....."ooh me bum's a bit sore" but small price to pay for not polluting the planet not that he had a lot of travel options open to him back in the day. Anyway maybe ethical travellers could do the one way on a non polluting long boat and then if, they had say an emergency such as a eco warrior protest to attend than they could maybe use a few air miles to get back in time.

Just a thought

I agree with those who think the protest is worth doing (after all, here we all are discussing climate change and how to draw attention to it) but that it is being misdirected. I do think that upsetting public transport, which we need to prioritise urgently over the private car, is quite wrong, and also that flash demos as Mycatisahacker says would be better. They would draw attention without disrupting people's lives and losing sympathy for the cause.

We watched David Attenborough last night and although the programme was quite forthright about the risks we face, I thought it didn't mention the car enough. Before we get into the 'whitabootery' - whitaboot the disabled, whitaboot the places with no public transport - can I say that if only people who really needed to drive because of disability or having no alternative did so, the roads could be a lot emptier. Here we have villages where there are no buses but the people who have to drive into town to shop often have problems parking because of the people who could perfectly well walk to the shops but don't. I have a friend who drives to meetings and parks in a place she can see from her house. She is perfectly fit. I don't think that being a child is a disability. I have seen children who should be old enough to cross roads safely but who have obviously no idea how to do it as they are taken everywhere by car. They often don't wear coats in the winter too. What happens if the car breaks down?

One of the very few sensible ideas Scottish Labour have come up with recently is to make buses free for everyone. Of course it would need huge investment, but what a great idea!

Emma Thompson flew to the USA to appear on the Ellen degenes show. Mmmmm

Enough is enough though now and these protesters should go home and let Londoners have some peace.

This is now like bullies taking over.