Bombing in Sri Lanka

Gabriella...your argument is a cul de sac. Round and round.
I just pointed out how important to human evolution the concept of religion is!

Why bring up apples etc?
If your misguidedly referring to the garden of eden and Adam and Eve, surely we’re intelligent enough to recognise this was a story to help explain a the wider idea that humans have always asked Where Did We Come From and why is there suffering in the world?’

I wonder if using the Christian story of our beginnings rather than the turtle or atlas holding up the world your showing a bias?

To be clear I agree with some of the observations you have made ie: humans will fight over anything (and imv that includes atheists).

That doesn’t negate the historic importance of religion.

Man is not man made - Therefore, anyone's guess where religion came from, or didn't, would be correct - Because nobody actually knows -

People adhere to ideas, especially the idea that their ideas are right and others are not -

My husband was atheist - He believed his ideas were true - And correct - And he adhered to them throughout his lifetime -

Its kind of difficult to consider others views while adhering to ones specific ideas at the same time -

Very true rose, and I guess that’s why we have to endure these horrible attacks all around the world, and see innocent people, including children, blown up. Not because of your husband of course, but because people believe they are right, and everyone else is wrong.

All the world’s out of step except me. I don’t know who first said that, but how true it is.

Speculation in the news that one of the terrorists was radicalised here in Britain.

Oh goodness Urmstongran, I hope not!!

I heard on BBC news this morning that one of them was educated in the UK but not that they were radicalised Urmstongran .

It’s hardly surprising is it that someone from SL was educated here? Just mischief making imo to try and elide that into being radicalised here.

‘Speculation’ is the operative word of course

Radicalised is what’s being said gillybob
Awful isn’t it?

Oh that's terrible Urmonstongran !

Well I used the word ‘speculation’ when I posted.

This:
Security expert Professor Anthony Glees also suggested MI5 will know the identity of the bomber with the British link.

And of course it will really suit the SL Government ( which is in a heap of trouble over the attacks) to try and pin the blame on us. I’ve no idea what the truth is but this type of speculation isn’t exactly helpful is it? And even if it were true, there were 7/8 others involved in the actual bombing, let alone how many others involved in the planning.

There is no logical link between your two statements Urm

Why would where someone is radicalised actually matter compared with the actual fact of being radicalised?

Can you really not see why?

Sorry maryeliza if I didn’t make my 2 comments clear.

I wanted to clarify that I used the word speculation.

The second part was a quote.

And I think it’s very important to get to the root of the radicalisation. So do the security agencies involved.

Jane10 ??

No I can’t seecehy it matters but anyway let’s wait for the evidence. Meanwhile I found this article informative about the complex situation in SL as I mentioned upthread. SL does very well in developing its own home grown terroists

www.independent.co.uk/voices/sri-lanka-bombings-attacks-easter-islamist-terrorism-christian-tamil-tigers-a8880961.html

Here it is

The quote was not about being radicalised here but about being known to MI5. As we have no facts or timeline on any of this at all at the moment then we still know nothing about where he was radicalised and when. Speculation is not helpful in situations like this.

Mr Glees, the director the Centre for Security and Intelligence Studies at Buckingham University, suggested the terrorist is likely to have studied at a London based university, and possibly could have completed studies in engineering or IT.

Mr Glees told MailOnline: 'I have no doubt whatsoever that the identity of this person will very soon uncovered. Everybody leaves a trail.
'MI5 know who this person is. They will be checking out where they studied, who they came into contact with, and crucially, who else was in their network.

'There are a stream of Islamist terrorists who come from higher education in the UK that are graduates, who are over represented in terrorist ranks.

This gives you an indication of the sort of people they are, they are not homeless refugees, or unemployed, they are well educated, highly motivated, ideological fanatics, that are highly dangerous.
'This is a very significant development. It is very likely that this person would have been radicalised in the UK, or Australia.
'He may have had no personal contact with the fighting in ISIS in Syria or Iraq.

'Massive warning lights have to flash here. We can't assume this person was a jihadist from the battlefields.'

Mr Glees suggested he would have become radicalised after coming into contact with a radical preacher 'a band of brothers or sisters' that would have taken the form of 'campus associations.' “

Very worrying.

None of this is fact based at the moment - that’s all I’m saying. Why speculate until more is known? Of course the security services are onto it ( and plenty of others I’m sure). In fact of course we may never know the facts as it’s not necessarily helpful to put those sort of details into the public domain.

The news this morning said one of the bombers was an undergrad here in UK and post grad in Australia, no mention of radicalisation in either countries.

Unless some security agency comes up with solid evidence we shall never know?

I agree. ‘Don’t let facts get in the way of a good story’.

Which is why I used the word ‘speculation’ when I first posted.

Of course we shall have to see how this all pans out. But the security forces are all over it right now and as that professor said, ‘everyone leaves a trail’.

It won’t be long before we get told.

I have been unable to post before because I was in shock. My son, wife and young grandchildren were on holiday in one of the hotels which was attacked and had left the restaurant only seconds prior to it being bombed. I was beside myself until I heard they were safe. They were able to catch a flight with only the clothes they stood up in, and are still suffering shock as they had to exit through the carnage. I find it difficult to comprehend how a human can indiscrimately kill other innocent humans, whatever the motivating ideology.