Another Scottish Referendum

We clearly do live in different parts of the country jane but if you read my post you'll see that I deliberately chose to relate the experiences of my own family and that I in no way relied on it quoted spin doctors.
My experience, my situation, my opinion, formed over many years.
As I said I concentrated on the micro, not the macro.
By all means explain your own direct personal experiences but do not deny or denigrate mine.

mcem I can only assume that you live in a different Scotland from me!!
Or that you've been reading the info from the SNP's large and expensive number of spin doctors.
Nicola S has had to make this pronouncement before the party conference to try to placate some of the more demanding members. The party is currently split on the demand/timing for another referendum.
There is no appetite for one in the country.

mycat Barnet only gives us back a % of what we pay in.....we'll be much better off financially with ALL our own revenue to spend on our own country.As it is we're subsidising the rest of the UK.The EU has already said there is NO queue and that Scotlands re entry would be swift and trouble free as we already have the EU legislation in place .

Hand-wringing?
I sympathise with anyone in England who is unhappy under this government, anyone who hates the prospect of brexit, anyone who feels they have no real way to express their dissatisfaction.
I'd be happier to to have independence instead of the much maligned Barnett formula which the poorly-informed use to justify their ignorant views of the real financial facts!

I just don’t see the hand wringing over whether you go or not. I suspect most English people think you should determine your own destiny.

Hopefully then the money sent to Scotland for all these wonderful benefits could be enjoyed in England instead.

I totally agree Westminster is pretty inept.

But do you think there’s an appetite for another referendum in Scotland? I suppose it really depends on what happens on Brexit. And goodness knows what’s going to happen there.

mycat I posted before seeing your post.
Maybe I've shown some aspects of the Scottish government's focus on "domestic matters".

Although I have voted SNP for several years, it's not because I am a rabid, dyed-in -the-wool nationalist.
I vote for a party that is left of centre, whose social policies I like.

GN has shown me so clearly, on an individual family level, that I am far happier here than I ever could be in England. This is not about being anti-english but about being anti-tory and anti the appalling policies being imposed on all of us by Westminster.

Education
I don't want my family to have the stress involved in the allocation of school places in the rotten free schools and rigid academies process.

Housing
I do want my 19 year-old GD to be saving optimistically with the realistic prospect of buying her own flat in a couple of years.
I do want my sick daughter to have the better level of protection she has in a privately-rented home while depending on housing benefit.

NHS
I don't want to see my DiL and new GS chucked out of hospital hours after he arrived.
I do want the wonderful, caring and flexible approach they've enjoyed while dealing with mild jaundice and the time and support given so patiently while feeding is established.
I want my daughter to have access to all the support she needs without having to deal with the problems associated with the ever-encroaching privatisation of the NHS in England.

Care
I am proud that Scotland has been in the forefront by providing free personal care for the elderly and now also for younger people with severe disabilities.

I won't touch on the macro stuff like brexit and trade deals but will mention that I do want to see us free of nuclear bases.
I've opted to concentrate on the micro issues affecting families and communities.

So a choice between sitting at an EU table alongside similar sized independent countries or being dragged along in directions I don't want to go?

I'll vote for independence for Scotland with as much conviction as I voted to remain in the EU.

Nicole sturgeon is obsessed with independence and would perhaps be better concentrating on domestic matters.

If there is snither referendum that’s up to the Scottish people and as an English person to be honest I don’t care either way. If they choose to go then there their choice.

I don’t think they will find their importance to the EU and their value as much as they think though

If the answer to both is 'out', then I shall seriously consider moving to Scotland