Next Tory Leader.

Whitewavermark2,

This isn't going to please you. I thought Theresa May was on the right path trying to reach a compromise between the extremes of Remain ( which I voted for) and Leave.

She was let down on all sides. By the ERG of Francois and Mogg that hoofed the ball into their own net. And by Labour which was more concerned about its own electoral prospects than finding a solution to Brexit

And who won out of all this? A name that starts with an 'F'

With respect (and I do mean that Grandad) ... again I totally agree that the Tories got us in this dreadful mess - but JC is not the man who will get us out of it- of that I, and most of the LP members, are sure.

Iam64- agree 100% re Rory Stewart.

The choice of next labour leader will be of interest to more than the broader labour movement

As Jeremy Corbyn has now 'lost' three elections, that is the last general, the recent local and European elections, I'm surprised there isn't more discussion about the need for a Labour leader who is more likely to win the next general election.
We're living in very interesting times, to quote the Chinese proverb. So many prospective conservative leaders, they could run their own football team. I do hope we don't get Boris, he's a despicable ,self serving liar with a sense of entitlement as big as his ego. Gove is duplicitous and self serving. Rory Stewart seems least worst on what I've seen so far.

jura2, the Tory party began the 2017 General Election with a lead of more than twenty points in the opinion polls and that was the reason Theresa May called that election.

However, what happened Corbyn on the campaign trail proved to be more than a match for Theresa May, and she lost the Tory party its overall majority in the House of Commons, and that was the beginnings of all her troubles.

There will be those who again will state that "Labour/Corbyn did not win that election." However, he overturned that twenty point deficiency in the opinion polls to return the Labour Party to Parliament with an increased number of seats.

Now, think what may happen if the Labour party led by Corbyn were anywhere near even with the Tories in those opinion polls at the start of any General Election called later this year.

Following that Corbyn has stated that once Brexit is resolved, he would not lead the Parliamentary Labour Party into any further Election due to his age should that be contested at the next due date of 2022.

Who will follow him, well that's already being speculated and talked on in the Broader Labour movement?

Excellent post Grandad - right up to last paragraph.

There is no way that Labour would win a GE with JC at the helm- I find it unfathomable that Corbynites do not see or understand that. It is time to change Leader if you want to have any chance.

Day6 Quote [ I was glad Sajid Javid threw his hat into the ring, but as mentioned earlier in the thread, I'd hate to see his career curtailed because of the poisoned chalice that the next PM would have to carry forward. ]End Quote

Day6 whoever gets elected as Conservative leader/Prime Minister he or she should know precisely what they are taking on as the ever-growing political impasse has been demonstrated so very well and often over the last three years.

Should the person who becomes Prime Minister be someone who believes Britain must secure a deal prior to leaving the EU, then all of the same problems Theresa May faced will still be on the desk on his/her arrival at number ten.

Should that person be a WTO terms leaver, then somehow he or she will have to get that through Parliament against a majority that would go to any lengths to prevent that happening.

Therefore, I will have little sympathy with whoever obtains the position of our new Prime Minister in whatever problems they may face. That person will be from the Tory Party, and it has been solely that party that has brought Britain into this Brexit debacle.

Let him or her try to sort it out, but without doubt, we will all witness once again the backstabbers in the Tory Party attempting to bring the new leader down within weeks of arriving in that position.

I believe only a General Election has any prospect of releasing this nation from the political mire we all find ourselves in.

It was an opium pipe being passed round at a wedding celebration - in Afghanistan it would probably have been more offensive to have refused the pipe!

^Was he allegedly associated with cocaine in the past?

Could we have one who has been outed as a liar? I know most are but he is going to court over his claims.^

He didn't lie Charleygirl5. He admitted that when a pipe was being passed around at a wedding - I think it was in Afganistan - he smoked it, and that he shouldn't have done. Not sure what else he could say but when it comes to personal stuff (not political lies) I tend to think Jesus of Nazareth was right when he said to let him who is without sin cast the first stone. Although I do worryingly get the impression there are a few on here who do think they are "without sin"- absolutely above anything human in fact

Kit Malthouse - contender 10
Sir Graham Brady, who has bid since he stood down from the 1922 commitee.
Not Rory Stewart, remember how the old Etonians are a clan that has not much clue about how the ordinary folk live our lives. OK, maybe a great officer who served five years in Afghanistan and previously five years in other war zones. But maybe TOO military-fied... so even more 'removed'?
On a slight tangent, in the early thread, the Shires were mentioned. I recall being very amused by Rachel Johnson's book 'Shire Hell', sequel to Notting Hell'. All very tongue-in-cheek. So enjoyable, so unlike her brothers she stood as an MEP for Change. Sadly unsuccessful.

Imagine listening to Esther McVey all day and every day !!
No chance, the woman made the biggest blunder with UC.

Martin Lewis ( the money man ) would have my vote if he was a politician.

I wouldn't vote for any of the contenders. Rogues Gallery !

Was he allegedly associated with cocaine in the past?

Could we have one who has been outed as a liar? I know most are but he is going to court over his claims.

Rory Stewart really is Rod Stewart. Roderick is his first name.

Only likable by certain people Day 6. He is pretty high up on my "most disliked politician" list.

I can't decide whether the idea that some people seem to have that everyone think as they do, is down to arrogance or ignorance.

Day6.....there certainly aren’t many......on all sides of the House.

I was glad Sajid Javid threw his hat into the ring, but as mentioned earlier in the thread, I'd hate to see his career curtailed because of the poisoned chalice that the next PM would have to carry forward. Javid has been a good home secretary this last year, imo. He is one of that rare breed - a likeable politician.

kitty

He could be a hit:
People Get Ready
"I don't wanna talk about it" (Brexit)
"I was only Joking" (Brexit again)
"The First Cut is the Deepest" (not more austerity?)
"Downtown Train" (cancelling HS2?)

Those organising this leadership ballot stated that the whole thing would be over in six weeks with the new Prime Minister in place before Parliament rises for its summer recess in mid-July.

However, there are now eleven candidates, and more could enter that throng before the closing date of tenth of June. Therefore, even with the current number of candidates and having an MPs ballot every other day, eliminating one candidate, it will take near twenty days just to get down to the two candidates that then have to go out to the entire membership for final election of the leader.

So, if they then only allow three weeks for that postal ballot to be returned to Central Office there would seem to be no prospect under current Tory party rules for the new Prime Minister to be in place prior to Parliament adjourning for its summer recess.

The foregoing means that another two months of no debate or resolution to the most significant crisis this nation has faced in over seventy years is upon every one of us due once again to the total incompetence in the Tory Party.

It has been the Tory Party that brought this Brexit Situation on the UK, maintained and developed it into a full-blown National crisis, and now cannot even organise an election of a new Leader without that having a serious impact on bringing an end to that crisis.

The entitled "Nineteen Twenty Two committee" of the Tory Party state that they are to meet on Monday to review the rules of leadership elections in the Party. However, many would believe i am sure that the electoral rules should have been reviewed and revised BEFORE calling this election.

What a bunch of Bozos

I'd like to ask which contender for the leadership of the LibDems would attract the most votes in a general election- Jo Swinson or Ed Davey?

Kitty I would vote for Rod Stewart, he was till recently a friends neighbor, a "good bloke"!!!

As a lifelong Conservative I am not overly impressed with any of them.

Mind you a "poll" was being quoted on GMB this morning showed if there was a GE tomorrow the LIB Dems would win, with Brexit second and Labour/Conservative joint third!!!

kitty you could argue that you raised the tone

I keep misreading Rory Stewart as Rod Stewart and getting quite excited.

Sorry to lower the tone.

I quite fancied Rory Stewart until I heard that he would double our foreign aid to countries intending to spend our contribution on climate change. What?

More like they're clapping their hands in glee - even more mazuma to be stuffing their back pockets with!

I think we should seriously cut our foreign aid, not increase it!

Whitewavemark2, let's face it that should Boris (The Buffoon) Johson) get as far as being in the last two running for the leadership, then less than one hundred thousand Tory party members will choose him as the next Prime Minister of Britain.

The above will happen no matter what charges Boris may be facing in the courts by then, as those "Shire Tories" see life very differently from younger working people and their families in the towns and cities of Britain.

Sadly it is not just Brexit that divides this nation in these times, and those other divisions run very deep.

Matt Hancock sounds about 15 to me