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Next Tory Leader.

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 07-May-19 08:33:25

Names are coming along at a regular basis, and with May having a meeting with Brady today, it is likely that she will be persuaded to give a date of her departure.

So let’s start looking at who would make the most suitable Tory leader.

The first out of the hat is Boris Johnson.
His first hurdle is facing court to defend the charge of lying before the referendum.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/date-set-for-court-against-boris-johnson-1-6034496

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 10:06:12

There isn’t a single one is there?

varian Fri 24-May-19 10:02:19

According to David Mellor (remember him and his Chelsea shirt?) on BBC Breakfast there are 17 candidates, but that was this morning so perhaps there are more now - all utterly dreadful.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 10:00:16

Steve Baker going for it.

varian Fri 24-May-19 09:59:34

I seem to remember a time when the Conservative Party claimed to be "the party of business". Now it seems likely they will elect a leader how has openly said "F**k Business".

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 09:13:15

If Johnson is one of them, he is a shoe in. It won’t matter who the other name is.

Anniebach Fri 24-May-19 09:10:07

Two names will be given to the party members to choose,

Johnson or Hunt ?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 09:07:57

6 weeks of chaos at the end of which 4 months of chaos at the end of which years of economic chaos as we tackle a shrinking economy and social unrest.

Thank you Tories

Didn’t you do well?

Urmstongran Fri 24-May-19 09:05:30

I can’t wait for the 1922 envelope to be opened to reveal that the winner is ..... La La Land!
?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 09:04:38

One has assume that they had a mind to lose lucky?

Luckygirl Fri 24-May-19 09:02:43

Have these Johnson supporters lost their minds?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 08:58:11

Johnson is certainly in the front of the race at present, but his leadership is by no means assured.

As one senior Tory put it. Johnson is ok as long as he keeps his mouth shut.
The longer the leadership contest goes on the more likely Johnson will issue a statement making it clear what an idiot he is.

But nevertheless we have to consider seriously what is likely to take place if he indeed wins the contest.

One thing for sure the numbers in the HoC won’t have changed, indeed there is a possibility that some Tory mps could not live with Johnson as leader and leave to join their colleagues on chuk.
That would leave Johnson with a minority, ungovernable government. End of story.
However if he is still left with a small minority, the numbers in HoC remain the same and as far as Brexit us concerned there will still be no majority for anything.
That leaves us imo with a high risk of no deal leave. I suspect that Brussels are taking this risk extremely seriously and are actively planning for this.
Brussels are of the opinion that Johnson is an unreliable liar who simply is impossible to deal with.

So no deal it will be. As Johnson has said “bugger business”

Urmstongran Fri 24-May-19 08:49:58

Tusk: “Please don’t waste this time”

Fat chance.

Luckygirl Fri 24-May-19 08:48:45

I am deeply disturbed by the idea that senior Tories can seriously imagine that Johnson is prime minister material - what can they be thinking of?

ditzyme Fri 24-May-19 08:46:54

Boris Johnson may be colourful and bring a bit of energy to things,but he is seen by many around the world as a bit of a buffoon. Do we really want someone with that image as leader of our governing party? David Mellor on BBC Breakfast this morning, suggested Jeremy Hunt, what do you think of that? I wouldn't even give credence to Esther McVey, who just doesn't seem a serious politician to me, maybe because over the years I've seen her on daytime TV in her other role. You need someone with a bit of clout, a bit of gravitas, a sense of humour, patience, and someone who the country will approve of, as well as party members. No more division, no more bickering, just get on with the job of governing. I feel sorry for Theresa May, it can't be comfortable working with a bunch of people who are obviously against you, a bit like being back at school and being the odd one out because for some reason, none of the other children like you.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 08:45:06

Yes that’s wierd isn’t it a leader is fine as long as the party is winning????

The whole point is to win elections isn’t it? shock

lemongrove Fri 24-May-19 08:44:07

Urmston yes, I agree, Dominic Raab seems sensible and at the moment he would be my choice too.

lemongrove Fri 24-May-19 08:42:24

What nonsense you do talk GGM3 .....get a grip!

GracesGranMK3 Fri 24-May-19 08:30:36

I should have added - "or how many people you kill in the process" to the list.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 24-May-19 08:29:29

I doubt it Ginny (Fri 24-May-19 08:22:51 ). Isn't the Tory party the party of "as long as you win it doesn't matter how immoral you are or what laws you break? Obviously, if an ordinary person behaved, in the same way, they would bring back hanging in an instant.

Ginny42 Fri 24-May-19 08:22:51

Keeping an eye on the private court case brought by Marcus Ball against BJ as a liar. Surely if he's found to be a liar it puts him out of the leadership race? We might hope so at least.

I don't quite understand why the Government keep asking TM to name the day she's going. Surely they tell her when her time is up if they're dissatisfied with her performance? Is it because no one has a clue what to do when she's no longer there to take the flak?

love0c Fri 24-May-19 08:18:37

Liz Truss would get my vote if she stands.

Urmstongran Fri 24-May-19 08:15:55

I think it’ll be Boris. But I’d like Raab.

This is interesting though:

“Parliament effectively blocked a No Deal exit earlier this year by passing a law ordering Theresa May to seek an extension to the UK's membership of the EU.

But a study by the Institute for Government think-tank yesterday suggested that if a committed Brexiteer prime minister simply abandoned Mrs May's deal, there would be little Parliament could do to stop them.

Report author Maddy Thimont Jack said the legislation piloted by Labour's Yvette Cooper to block a No Deal departure was only possible because of an amendment to the 'meaningful vote' on Mrs May's deal.

'If a new prime minister is set on No Deal, then they have no need for further "meaningful votes",' she said.
'That denies MPs an opportunity to vote to take control of the timetable again.' “

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 08:08:36

I think probably Gove has the most experience. Boris doesn’t do detail. The rest are not in any way up to the job.

Mind you none of them are an attractive proposition.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 24-May-19 06:44:38

If you are a Tory member with a vote for OUR next PM please tell me what you actually know about JRMs "sensible views" on the Human Rights Act, same sex marriage, abortion, zero hours contracts, climate change, etc., etc. It would kill the Tory party stone dead. Actually, this might be the way to go, thinking about it. More than anyone bar Boris, "Never Trust a Tory" applies to this man.

Lyndiloo Fri 24-May-19 04:45:07

Oh dear, what a disasterous state we are in. May will resign, and who else is there? To get Brexit done and dusted we need a fervent Brexiteer! Boris? Gove? Davis?

What about Jacob Reese-Mogg? He seems to talk a lot of sense.

But, sadly, there doesn't seem to be a 'Shining Star' in the Tory party!

I feel a bit sorry for Teresa May - she did her best.

Who was it who said, 'Every politician's career ends in failure'? Enoch Powel, I think. And that's so true! No politician ever leaves office on a 'high'. It's always on a 'defeat'.

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