lets face it ,as my old granny would have said the world has gone to hell in a handcart! She would be absolutely right .Labour has been in the last throes of death in Scotland for a quite a while, Brexit is just the last nail in their coffin,Tories haven't had a decent vote since the mid 1950'S so nothing new there .
Good try again at disrailing a thread for your own obsessions Annie, But you missed the point. The men who drank in working men's clubs in the '80s were busy playing dominoes and reading their paper whilst the woman stripped. They were there for the pint not the stripper. Ditto I imagine with Widdiecome ( Now I've got that Victoria Wood song as an earworm again!) Anne Widdiecome Anne Widdiecome....
No it is simply a trade agreement. However many people attatch far much emotion and significance than it really deserves.
The ludicrous comments from such as Geldof that music will die are just such.
The links of art and culture will remain maybe in a different form but remain. People will still work and travel. The planes will still fly and kids will still go on exchange visits etc etc.
The sun will still shine and life will go on.
Seriously the hysteria surrounding Brexit on all sides is quite extraordinary.
And I expect strippers will still strip although no idea what strippers have to do with it. I hope Anne wasn’t stripping I would need eye bleach for that one
It was Sunday lunch times. Never in an evening when women might be in the club. I had a misspent youth and was probably one of the few women who went in. (There was food as well) Black pudding, pickled eggs etc -such delicacies!)
Mycatisahacker anyone who works in the arts industry will tell you all of it's branches will suffer. Watch a film if it is something of value it will often have the EU symbol at the end. Of course music won't die out completely however it will become even more expensive to see live and only the rich will be able to afford it. Not to mention the EU investment in our Heritage and historic buildings, there's nothing to replace the money the EU gave.
Of course those who work in the market will say art will suffer because instead of sitting on their bums accepting EU cash they will have to make films people want to watch and put on exhibitions people actually want to see and not just in London!
Live bands will still sing live. They managed before the EU and will continue to do so.
The billions we send to Europe can be spent here. Heritage and historic buildings again it’s the market force. It people want to visit them and upkeep them fine if not well that’s fine too.
We are not going to become a cultural vaccume because we leave a trade agreement. We really arnt.,
It's far more complicated than that, but effectively you will be left with the American film industry because they have the distribution facilities. Smaller independent cinemas will struggle and fail. As for funding in the wider area what do you think the EU capital of culture scheme did? Some live bands will, but music isn't just bands. So historic buildings will be unable to offer reasonably priced entrance. That's OK then but why should the poor suffer?
Look if smaller independent cinemas will struggle and fail then that’s because they don’t attract an audience so what a bloody waste of tax payers money propping them up!
What’s the point in sending billions to the EU to have them send it back to us!
Makes absolutely no financial or practical Sense.
And on another level when we leave government can’t blame all their woes on the EU so we might get more transparency
Mycatisahacker well you may enjoy living in a cultural desert of Disney and Pixar with no quality films or TV and no museums, art galleries or historic sites but all of us are not philistines and believe that some things are more important than profits As for UK governments looking after things, how many libraries do you think have closed because they aren't economically viable and don't make money?
There is a place for Disney and Pixar and there is a place for the arts films museums and art galleries.
However I don’t agree with spending tax payers money on things people are not interested in or don’t visit.
Funnily enough this Philistine expects film makers to make films people want to watch if that be Harry Potter or I Daniel Blake.
Good films get made. And good films are watched.
Museums and art galleries shouldn’t need subsidies they should attract visitors who are prepared to pay.
Maybe less public funds will force London based galleries to travel to ‘shock horror’ the North or wales or the midlands. That would be a great step forward.
What planet are you living on Mycatisahacker here in the NE we have excellent galleries and museums which host travelling exhibitions from all over the world. Ken Loach films have been heavily funded by the EU. It is highly likely that he will now choose to shoot them in Ireland and keep EU funding. If we don't subsidise museums and galleries we condemn future generations to a world where only the rich can see exhibitions and experience heritage. It's not a world I want to live in. Money and profit aren't everything.