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Banning milkshakes to save Farage

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trisher Mon 20-May-19 15:56:03

Well Newcastle got him today but police in Edinburgh asked McDonald's not to sell milkshakes whilst he was there. What do you think? Is he fair game? Is it OK to target right wing politicians? Or should milkshakes be banned?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-48339711?

Nonnie Wed 22-May-19 11:08:42

Just come back on after a day away and only read first page since my post so far but find it really interesting that people can read my post condemning it and ignore that part of it to suggest I condone it? When such comments are made I think they do 'protest too much. More later when I've read the rest.

Chewbacca Wed 22-May-19 11:18:53

NF has very few supporters on this thread, from what I've seen trisher. But condoning acts of violence, at any level, and to anyone, puts one at the same level as him doesn't it?

When MPs are resorting to wearing body cameras, whilst out and about at public meetings, simply because of the amount of verbal and physical violence that they receive, is indicative that reasoned, rational debate with those we don't agree with is no longer respected.

Nonnie Wed 22-May-19 11:28:33

I will come back and elaborate on my first post. I do not agree with throwing things at people, intimidating people or throwing foul language at them. I hope that is now clear.

About the possibility that NF was behind it. Some of the suggestions I have seen is that, if you watch the video, he was surrounded by people and then suddenly the area on one side was almost clear. He had 4 heavies and on the video you see two 'not noticing' the man grinning and coming to throw the shake. It was a policeman who ran to restrain the man although the heavies were nearer. It appeared he had a pre-prepared tweet ready to send out after it happened. One person has suggested that there was hardly anyone to hear his speak so he needed an excuse to cancel it. These are SM comments which are not my opinions but do make my cynical mind think 'could it be true?'

jura2 Wed 22-May-19 11:46:49

hmmm indeed- something just does not tally when you watch the vid and his heavies

Fennel Wed 22-May-19 12:51:35

Another point - NF does have a lot of support in this country, even though he obtained no seats in Parliament at the last election. in 2017.
I've quoted these figures before:
DUP approx 300,000 votes 10 seats
SNP approx 1 million votes 35 seats
UKIP approx 600,000 votes No seats.

Nonnie Wed 22-May-19 12:54:27

Mr PayPal tried to get elected to parliament 7 times but the electorate saw through him

DoesAnyoneKnow Wed 22-May-19 12:54:57

There isn't much peace in society at the moment, "wrong think" seems to be a dreadful social crime for many.

varian Wed 22-May-19 13:06:41

FPTP has disadvantaged many parties, eg in 2017
Lib Dems – 2,371,772 votes 12 Seats

One of the worst examples was the 1983 GE -
Labour - 8,456,934 votes (27.6%) 209 seats
SDP/Lib - 7,780,949 votes (25.6%) 23 seats

Mycatisahacker Wed 22-May-19 13:12:23

I think by saying you don’t support violence etc and then saying ‘well it looked like a put up job to me’ really weakens your post.

Look I have no time for Nigel but by suggesting it’s not real just plays into his hands!!

Rise above. Total condemnation. That’s all needs to be said.

Nonnie Wed 22-May-19 13:20:46

Mycat up until now I thought you and I had reasonable debates but now you have accused me of saying something I didn't ‘well it looked like a put up job to me’ . Actually you didn't say to whom you were referring but I think you mean me.

I cannot see how showing GN what I have heard and seen in any way weakens my post. All I have done is suggested the possibility, I have not said I think it is so, just that it might be so.

Censoring what I have read is not my style, I share things I agree with and also things I disagree with. That makes me far more open minded that some on here.

If those remarks were addressed to me I will accept your apology.

Mycatisahacker Wed 22-May-19 13:25:44

Oh Nonnie

No I wasn’t in any way picking on you absolutely not. Several posters have said they thought it looked a staged milkshake but my point was well we won’t ever know if it was or wasn’t but the original point stands that any act such as this is wrong, as you said.

My point was don’t play into his hands if you see what i mean.

Anyway apologises if I annoyed you. flowers

Nonnie Wed 22-May-19 13:37:22

Thanks Mycat we may find out at some point but I'm not holding my breath!

Sorry all for the huge link below, I can find a way of copying just the text. If you open it there are only a few lines to read and it is very apropos today.

www.facebook.com/BestForBritain/photos/a.1921153301457398/2331090493797008/?type=3&eid=ARB_Nz_F8IY3EkD8Y2WRjkojbd8fJpkaspynvGkLuGyC5EiCLduRtXI8ktrOh_3rURFFAhj7i4SMMKSO&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARB9-CX6BbbdT9Hb149weCY8Y2QeTQpqbJJhrxo7eyerXqJdhxrrmdIoHos3kwEOmGbw9LPUFcqEeDH2NRER7CKgHQ1qKSkZkFWII-hDSOfzBpmIeLxpVgjThwNLXebwvfC31EM1IHE-oWeLqgueczGe2VZ6HmvF3qrqKYVWaU-mmZKZFvX95gMMNF_0ls6UOlJZN74Rjx-iPjYKRvKejuHbVojOCCIkgtglVwmKX4it6bU9BzU7KgyqqduqNzP3agu-fy5bZqfC-5HtfQgSHBl_J9FySLofmsFNxsVesd57M99tB0preo3VGCmaofWDEDibMN34PNOysA5ELqtMxkIE0F6KPA66uVEw1EldJX12C7bhdhAeeL5jng&__tn__=EHH-R

jura2 Wed 22-May-19 17:07:32

So, one of the men who threw liquid at Femi at the Brexit Conference, and called him a 'fu*king traitor' repeatedly- is:

McCrae, a lecturer in mental health at King’s College, has promoted far-right conspiracy theories in a video for the Bruges Group think tank and written for the pro-Tommy Robinson blog Politicalite. Nice!

jura2 Wed 22-May-19 17:29:39

TBH I am tempted to write to the Dean of Kings College to say that his disgusting behaviour does not befit his Senior Lecturer post, and is a dreadful example for his students.

MaizieD Wed 22-May-19 18:15:33

McCrae, a lecturer in mental health at King’s College

That is unbelieveable, jura. It's bizarre on so many levels.

Just for interest, here's another politician being 'assaulted' while campaigning

twitter.com/CSM76/status/1130756370842693633

A rather more graceful reaction than Farage's, I think.

And here is Femi being abused

twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1131071103454130176

Not pleasant viewing.

Mycatisahacker Wed 22-May-19 18:33:21

I really like femi.

I was very uncomfortable with the last interview I saw with him julia HB as he seemed to have a minder with him who controlled what he could and couldn’t answer so he looked actually scared so I hope he isn’t being used as a pawn.

I think he’s a genuinely nice lad

jura2 Wed 22-May-19 19:32:49

Agreed, and very bright too.

Complaints have been pouring in to King's College today - mine included. What an example!

Mycatisahacker Wed 22-May-19 19:34:27

It’s absolutely unacceptable. What an example

Elvive Wed 22-May-19 19:35:13

Why didn't F just take his jacket off and use it to wipe his lower half and carry on?
He is a stirling chappie and all that.

Day6 Wed 22-May-19 20:16:51

Yes they do know, but now think he is a saviour come to rescue them,

What utter rubbish,

I don't like Farage, Corbyn or Cable, Soubry, Thornberry (there's a Labour traitor if there ever was one) and going further back I had little time for Blair or Heath...

However, Leave voters were left for dead, trampled on as insignificant by a parliament determined to remain in the EU. Even my Remainer friends said much the same and that democracy was in danger.

As far as I am concerned, Mr Blobby or Postman Pat might have formed a party determined to fight back and they would have had my support. Farage has put a very strong case for the establishment now being rogue and self-serving and he has the support of millions BECAUSE of what is going on in our Parliament. British politics had reached a new low,

Remainers gave birth to the Brexit Party. It really shouldn't have been necessary. March 29th came and went and now we have EU elections on the cards after three futile years of negotiations. May has destroyed the Tory party, Corbyn doesn't know where exactly on the fence to sit any more and has had another face transplanted on to the back of his head given he can do 360 degree turns regarding his principles and beliefs at any given moment. Cable is rubbing his hands as a wilderness man who now sees a political role for the Lib Dems.

This will be marked as a turning point in British politics and rightly so.

The shake up is long overdue. If Farage buggered off tomorrow there would be millions more able and concerned Leavers ready and willing to run the Brexit Party, such is the feeling of disgust at our parliamentarians and the Westminster bubble.

Labaik Wed 22-May-19 20:25:06

'The shake up is long overdue. If Farage buggered off tomorrow there would be millions more able and concerned Leavers ready and willing to run the Brexit Party, such is the feeling of disgust at our parliamentarians and the Westminster bubble.'..then why did UKIP cease to be a party of any importance once Farage left. And who are these' other people that can run the party? Anne Widdecombe or Rees Moggs sister?

crystaltipps Wed 22-May-19 20:27:02

Many able and concerned leavers - the likes of Yaxley- Lennon no doubt, that’s the fear. Mind you , as the BP has only one member that might be difficult.

MaizieD Wed 22-May-19 21:06:07

I seriously thought this was a spoof item, but it's being reported in several papers.

"BUS STROP Nigel Farage ‘trapped on Brexit bus due to people armed with milkshakes"

www.thesun.co.uk/news/9132151/nigel-farage-brexit-bus-people-milkshakes/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1558543114

Brendawymms Wed 22-May-19 21:52:40

It is a spoof item. He was not trapped he did not intend to get off. It being reported in the news papers does not make it TRUE, it’s fake news.

varian Wed 22-May-19 21:56:18

Typical NF.