LGBT protest at school

oldmum I'm sorry but you are completely wrong. I taught a child who was noticably different (played with the girls a lot, made himself bracelets, necklaces and crowns with the construction toys etc). At about 7 or 8 some of the boys started calling him names referring to what they considered his sexuality to be. They had already absorbed prejudice. It children are taught that others are different and can live their lives differently from an early age and that they are to be cared for and respected,they don't develop such feelings. As it was staff dealt with the problem as soon as they spotted it, but at some level damage was already done. That's why we need early education to stop any child being bullied or picked on.

I have direct experience that has coloured my views to a certain religion mainly because of their attitudes and behaviour to women.
I feel it is very important that they are not allowed to carry on indoctrinating their children with hate filled beliefs.
Which is what they do when you get down to the core of the matter.
Saying it is ok for them to keep their beliefs sacred and unchallenged is not good for the rest of us.
They teach that homosexuality is sinful, those days are over in the UK. Thankfully
there is a reason that the sex gangs were so prolific and it has all to do with the beliefs held about white girls.
This might sound shocking or going too far but it is coming from my direct experience.

We have to make it clear to all citizens that we are aiming for a society that is tolerant and everyone is inclusive.

"everyone deserves respect, whether you agree with them or not." Thu 23-May-19 11:26:01

I think that is exactly what the schools are trying to teach oldmom. Equally, they will be trying to teach that, while everyone is "entitled to their opinion" not everyone's opinion becomes a truth simply because they hold it.

Religion and what comes from it is simply an opinion. Of course, I should respect the person who holds that view but it does not make that opinion a truth. At one time 'reflection' was not really dealt with until young people went to university - too late of course. Now they will, in an age-appropriate way, learn to question why they have formed opinions and what knowledge and fact that is based on. They will explore what other people, accepted by society as knowledgable, think. They will look at the epistemology that created that view. They will learn not to attack because someone doesn't share that view.

They will, overall, I believe, be much more rounded, knowledgable and questioning human beings. I am not sure many religions have felt over the centuries that they could cope with that and nor, perhaps, can some parents. But then children do not "belong" to us, do they.

oldmum I think that "What schools should be teaching is not that "everyone is right", but that "everyone deserves respect, whether you agree with them or not." Children should be taught how to disagree, respectfully." is what this is all about. That is what the schools are teaching. The problem is that some object to it and are abusing those teaching it rather than trying to change the law.

After reading the last few pages - I would hate to have to be a teacher with the responsibility of teaching this subject.
The whole thing is so new, I hope they have thorough training.
Who is going to train them?

They are already trained to teach Fennel. It's not really that new. Many teachers would have been trying to ensure that their students were 'thinking' human beings. It has just been given a proper framework now - and time I hope.

I am giving up my argument here. pinkquarz has persuaded me.

Maybe the children will manage to teach their elders.

Still seems a bit young though. But hey, kids can cope.

Some posters are still talking about teachers 'teaching this subject' as though classes about sexuality, gender, homosexuality, transgender etc are being arranged in primary schools. No they aren't. the No Outsider books are for lower schools in any event as part of the curriculum and holistic work in schools in no bullying, acceptance of others and so on
Most primary school teachers are already very good at all of that. I don't suppose anyone objects to Winnie the Pooh, there's Eyore, with his low permanent low mood and his friends looking out for him. that could be construed as a dreadful thing, the idea of introducing depression as a mental health issue to 3 year olds.

Iam

Can't believe you said that about perhaps not supporting sweet little Eeyore!

I’m wondering if ‘respecting other people’s beliefs’ can be taken too far.
Do I really have to respect the beliefs of people who believe the earth is flat?
Do I have to respect people who think it’s ok not to vaccinate their children?
Do I have to respect people who think it’s acceptable to take their pre-pubertal children for hormone treatment because they don’t like the gender they have been ‘assigned’ at birth?
I don’t think I do.
I think ‘respect’ in these situations means only that any discussion of these subjects should be carried out with respect for those people’s feelings, without resorting to abuse.
But I don’t think it means that in our quest to be kind, or politically correct, that we shouldn’t call out beliefs that are factually wrong, morally wrong or dangerous.

(I fully support primary school children being taught about the need to respect differences between people. It’s militant transgenderism I don’t like)

I find it odd that being kind is only expected of females.

In general it seems some are always more equal than others.

I was thinking earlier what did people do with collective learning - prior to the printing press and modern day safeguarding?

Being kind is only expected of females?

You live in very sad circumstances.

I find it odd that being kind is only expected of females

Where did you get that idea, does ?
Or perhaps it’s better not to ask!

Have you looked at the link I posted about the rights of the child?

Which link is that? There are so many.....

Ahh, males are women, kindness is ....

As the saying goes some are more equal than others.

Link?

well said janea.

Here is another link, I am sure plenty lurk and don't post.

www.citizengo.org/en-gb/fm/170822-tell-health-secretary-stop-transitioning-children?fbclid=IwAR2eN-ii8Ad8cEGryvOFke040n1GK1AQHXlw7L_vyl1Dgo0vbvO72ynwFMw

I think my two sons, now in their 50s, are more tenderhearted than their two sisters .
Who are quite toughminded.

Sorry, what’s that got to do with being kind only expected of females?

Nothing. I directed you to a previous link you can't be bothered to go back and look for it, that's your choice.

I posted another link, you may not be interested in the information I share, plenty of people lurk and don't post may be interested in my links.

Don't you respect the person and their right to hold a particular personal belief jainainsworth rather than respecting the belief?

Having made dumb comment hurriedly moves on to something else...........