The unofficial 2nd EU referundum taking place today 23rd May 2019

Nonnie....bananas? That wasn’t me ( although I do like one sliced with my weetabix)?
Demanding constant answers on here means that you won’t get any, because posters get fed up with it, not because they don’t have any.
We all voted after a lot of thought and wanting to do the right thing for future generations......we just have differing ideas of how to achieve it.

Banana gate

Perhaps you voted for free trade agreements outside the EU?

The good news?

We have many free trade agreements with many countries, both big and small via the EU and our businesses benefit enormously by them.

In place with 35 countries trade agreements of all sort some extremely complicated but undoubtedly beneficial.

Partly in place with 48 countries and in the process of ratification.

Pending with 22 countries.

Negotiations with 21 countries under way.
Unfortunately 5he U.K. will lose the benefit of all this unless it can negotiate with all these countries to roll these agreements over, but this is extremely complicated.

Complications like the Rules of Origin

Nonnie
It appears that some posters are correct in their assumption that you have no intention of reading as to why people voted to leave.
@ 15.28 you mentioned straight bananas everyone knows that this fact was rubbish so I thought I would give you some true facts on the way the eu operates with poor countries.
I'm thankful that I haven't wasted anymore time on replying to you.

lemon once again I suggest you actually read my post.

No one has 'demanded' anything, always been polite requests and the requests would stop if there were sensible answers.

In addition to noting you were selective about which of my reasons you responded to I also note that you have not, or cannot, answer my replies.

White I think you have played it down. We would be negotiating from a position of weakness so would find it impossible to get good deals with those countries.

We all know it wasn’t about trade deals.

Petra....I think I will follow your excellent advice in not wasting any more time.??

Mycat unlike some I can't see the point in making things up. You rudely talk about crystal balls but some of us do find out what the reality is. Meanwhile you are prepared to listen to those who want to pillage the country for their own ends. I have no idea why you do that but I do know that what I posted about WTO is how it will work.

Lemon
It was a moment of weakness instantly regretted

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One of the arguments put forward in favour of the EU is that each country has a voice - I have looked up the number of MEPs for each country:

Germany 96
France 79
Italy 76
UK 73
Spain 54
Netherlands 26
Belgium, Greece, Hungary and Portugal 21 each

Every other country has 20 or less

Seems the voting is weighted in favour of just a few countries with Germany having the most.

Is that calculated on population? Must look that up.

GracesGranMK3
^ but I do know that what I posted about WTO is how it will work^

Please can you direct me to your source of definitive information. I am very interested to research it. Thanks

Shame you're off again, petra because I've looked up the EU and bananas and I'm really not sure what you're getting indignant about.

The EU had a 'banana war' with the US because the EU were importing tariff and quota free bananas from the ACP (Africa, Caribbean and Pacific) countries and charging tariffs and imposing quotas on Latin American bananas, most of which were produced by a giant US company, Chiquita. The US took the EU to the WTO which ruled that the EU tariff imposition was 'illegal' under WTO rules. So (I hope I've got this right) the EU was to remove the quotas and reduce the tariffs over time.

As far as I can see, the end result was bad for the ACP countries who are unable to compete with the Latin American bananas as they do not have the technology or opportunities for economies of scale available to the US company which owns most of the banana plantations, Chiquita.

Where, in all this lot, the evil EU is to be reviled I'm not altogether sure. Here are my search results if anyone else fancies trying to make head or tail of it.

duckduckgo.com/?q=EU%2C+banana+tariffs&ia=web

Prices to consumer and retailer seem to be quite irrelevant but perhaps someone else can also work out why Tesco ripping off the producers is any fault of the EU. Supermarket chains are notorious for this sort of behaviour aren't they?

Perhaps petra has a link to an article which explains it all to us?

Ooh Nonnie you closet ‘Leave’ voter you!

“'.I have been genuinely asking for a long time if anyone could tell me good reasons why I should vote for a leave party rather than a remain one. I voted for a leave party because no one has answered that question.”
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Interesting that no one has picked up on my post where I explained that the man handing us our papers tried to influence our vote
I find that absolutely astonishing, having worked as a poll clerk on many occasions.
It is strictly against the rules and I have never come across that at all.
Of course, there are always various people sitting just outside the voting venue trying to use their powers of persuasion but they are not allowed inside.

the man behaved badly and should not be allowed to work in a polling station again.

I agree, I am shocked and hope you reported him.

“So when I say the truth Urmston you say I am 'winding people up' but give yourself permission to say anything you like. Did you get promoted to 'Thread Monitor'? Oh no, just one rule for you .............................. [sigh]”

Ah no Nonnie not the Thread Monitor at all.

Just a bored individual after reading your incessant posts!
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Those who have stuff they want to keep private for any reason whatsoever, should be respected
I do agree with that, GabriellaG

Using our real names would be extremely restrictive, particularly if posting about family matters.

I actually voted remain in the ref but voted Brexit on Thursday.

I find the certainty and the arrogance of remainers very off putting and they all seem to know exactly what will happen when we leave the EU when actually they have no more idea than brexiteers.

It’s the strident arrogance that I dislike. Particular in the light of project fear and all the doom and gloom has been proved completely wrong

joelsnan makes very many good points.

Thanks for the reminder Lara.

I think this thread has run its course anyway. It’s not particularly relevant now and I shan’t post on it again.

It doesn’t do my blood pressure any good ha!

Why isn't it relevant given that we've only just had the results?

Because we have had the results! ?

Personally, I think it's fairly easy to remember that some posters don't think very humanely when composing their comments, especially those on repeat repeat repeat.