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New Liberal Democrat Leader

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varian Mon 27-May-19 15:48:50

The EU Parliament elections have seen the Liberal Democrats come second overall with 20% of the vote, coming top in London and increasing the number of their MEPs from 1 to 14.

The LibDems are members of the ALDE (Allience of Liberals and Democrats for Europe), the third largest group in the European Parliament, who have increased their seats from 67 to 115.

Thousands of new members have joined the LibDems over the weekend inspired by a clear message to stop brexit. Sir Vince Cable has announced that he will step down as party leader in July and anyone who joins before June 7th will be able to take part in the election to chose the new leader.

libdems.secure.force.com/LiberalDemocrats/NewMemberRegistration

varian Sat 08-Jun-19 15:04:25

That was a direct quotation from the report of findings or research into conservative party membership by Queen Mary University, nothing to do with me or the Lib dems.

eazybee Sat 08-Jun-19 17:13:36

Why bother to quote it, then?

varian Sat 08-Jun-19 18:06:40

We very often, on , Gransnet, quote research results, surveys, facts and figures which have more weight than one person's opinion. That way we can have a more informed debate. I doubt whether even the most enthusiastic Tory party member actually believes that party members are a good cross section of our society, and this study clearly shows they are not.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 09-Jun-19 11:13:08

Chuka Umanna is to run as a Liberal Democrat in the by election which is a “safe Labour seat”!

varian Sun 09-Jun-19 11:53:52

According to the Mail? It might happen, we shall see.

varian Wed 12-Jun-19 19:05:14

Meanwhile, in the real world, British voters put the LibDems top the polls at 24%. Tories lag third equal with Labour at 19%.

So perhaps we should be glad that there are two excellent leadership contenders - Jo Swinson and Ed Davey, both head and shoulders above any of the 101 useless Tory candidates.

varian Wed 26-Jun-19 11:00:38

See the two leadership candidates engage in a civilised and constructive debate

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/06/lib-dem-hustings-other-leadership-contest

Pantglas1 Wed 26-Jun-19 11:12:13

Surely Ed Davey’s recent suggestion that someone ought to decapitate Boris (he later apologised) rules him out? Or is it only tories that are held to a higher standard?

varian Wed 26-Jun-19 12:11:45

It is not the first time that a politician has used the term "decapitate" in a metaphorical sense to mean seeing off the leader of another party. It is not a term I like but I don't think Ed should have felt the need to apologise.

varian Wed 26-Jun-19 12:13:44

There is to be a LibDem leadership debate on the Victoria Derbyshire Show tomorrow morning (Thursday) at 10am.

POGS Wed 26-Jun-19 15:49:10

"Surely Ed Davey’s recent suggestion that someone ought to decapitate Boris (he later apologised) rules him out? Or is it only tories that are held to a higher standard?"
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Ed Davey said:-

" This was a careless use of language, meant in electoral sense and in no way literally."

So Lib Dems say their use of careless language is not meant to be taken literally whilst other politicians are lambasted by them for using careless language.

Labour politicians who make or use careless / abusive language, ' have been on a journey' and should be forgiven.

It appears to be a rule for some but not for all it appears.

I was surprised MP Layla Moran did not put her name forward to be honest as she seemed to have been the Lib Dem go to spokesperson on practically every politics programme I have watched since the 2017 General Election, maybe because Jo Swinson was on maternity leave.

Of course Layla Moran suffered scrutiny over a personal incident in her private life similar to Boris Johnson and Carrie Symonds so I bet she is glad she took the decision not to throw her hat into the ring seeing how they are being portrayed. I doubt the two incidences would attract the same level of interest in the media as Boris Johnson is getting though which takes it back to being a rule for one and not another in some minds.