WHO DO YOU FANCY FOR OUR NEXT PM, AND WHY?

I feel stunned at our loss of democracy yet again. First a referendum that only a small percentage trust and now the leader of our country is being voted for by less than 1%of the electorate. This small group represents the whole of the wider BrItish public where around a quarter support leaving the EU while within the group an amazing 85% (you gov) support Johnson's no deal.

When things go wrong, as they inevitably will, we will certainly know who to blame. How did we allow our democratic system to be used against the vast majority in this way?

I and many others it seems like Boris, we've had the vicars daughter Theresa who admits the naughtiest thing she has ever done was run through the farmers wheat fields although she made up for it with all the lies she told as PM, time for a change someone with actual life experience who hopefully has the balls to stand up to the EU.

I would hate it if Labour got in! I’ve never been a political person but 4 years ago my husband ‘joined’ the Labour Party and he’s become almost a Corbynista. He’s always been an obnoxious bully but now he’s beyond a joke. None of us can have an opinion, he never listens to our concerns or opinions and if you point something out in the paper or on line he says it’s all lies!
Actually, he became a local Labour councillor 3 years ago and is now also, a county councillor. At 73, sick of his controlling and boring tirades and having 5 little ShiTzus I’d have gone ages ago! He says I should vote Labour to because I should back him up. Honestly, I’d rather eat the damned voting paper and choke on that vote for him!
Feels like I’ve been living with someone I didn’t know for 37 years!

Well said MOnica

Firecracker You sound like a five year old who swears that babies are found under gooseberry bushes.

I may be a Remainer, but I am not a member of the Conservative Party, I have absolutely no say in who becomes its leader and cannot see what difference it will make to me anyway and have no interest in any of the candidates wanting to lead it

But, what I do know is that the front runner is a liar and a cheat, who as Foreign Secretary put the life and liberty of Nazanin Zaghari Radcliffe at risk by stupid misplaced remarks and whose current 'handlers' are afraid to let him give interviews or have any contact with journalists because he is such a loose cannon, and and when we know that this chancer is likely becoming Prime Minister, then we know the political world has hit the basement and gone through the floor.

There were senior Conservatives on the radio this morning saying that if Boris became leader of their party, they would be leaving the Conservative party after 40 or more years membership. Leaving, not because they were leavers or Remainers, but because of the shame of having such a man at its head.

Both our major parties will then have leaders who bring shame to their parties, men who will compete to see how low they can bring their party and this country.

Firecracker if you are happy with this, what can anyone say?

Actually it has been interesting listening to colleagues of Johnson. They seem to be in two camps. The first as quoted by WW above, and from Chris Patten, Alan Duncan etc and the second as heard on R4 this morning the pathetic toadying by Priti Patel and others who just talk over any discussion of his faults in an obvious attempt to get themselves a future cabinet position.

Ow can we have reached such a low bar?

“Johnson is a gold medal ego-maniac. His chaotic persona is not an act - he is indeed manically disorganised over everything except his own image management. He is also a far more nastier and ruthless person than people realise. I would not take Johnson’s word over whether it is Monday or Tuesday. He is not a man to believe in, respect or to trust, save as a superlative exhibitionist. He is bereft of judgement, loyalty or discretion. Only in a Britain of the 21st century could he have risen so high”

Previous employer of B. Johnson.

firecracker . No you are wrong. Some of us are repelled by the thought of Johnson as PM for myriad reasons which I won't go over again. I think the fact that you are so desperate to leave the EU that you are happy to have this moral degenerate as PM is pathetic.

Yes Urmstongran full steam ahead fingers crossed ? for the 31st October 2019.

MaizieD the pot calling the kettle black comes to mind lol.

Your comment,*firecracker*, contains as much truth as does Boris Johnson. In other words, none at all.

You let your obsession with leaving the EU override any regard for honesty, decency or morality.

Totally agree with you Firecracker123 there seems to be a lot of support for people who are Remainers in the HoC on here - viz Rory Stewart (who was rubbish as Minister for prisons god help us if he got his hand on the tiller as PM), Ken Clarke, Jeremy Hunt backed by Amber Rudd, Stephen Kinnock etc.

Boris will be dynamic and determined. Theresa May, a Remainer at heart, was never up to the task of Leaving. And with Olly Robbins as her wingman I’m not surprised at the dog’s dinner she presented.

Full steam ahead now and not before time!

Thatcher met the same end of her political career as Mrs May, she too left No 10 in tears

Saw RS on tv yesterday and I was amazed. He looks just as awful when talking as in a still photo.
His chat was the usual guff and I don't agree with his policies. Oh to have another Maggie. She'd have driven a coach and horses through the lot of them.
Rory is off-putting both in looks and policies so I hope he fails in his quest, miserable blighter. ??

It's the truth.

What a stupid post, firecracker.

It seems to me all the Remainers on here dislike Boris because under his watch we will leave on the 31st October and they like Rory Stewart who wants to keep us in the EU ? nothing new here then

It makes me shudder when I think of Boris Johnson as PM. Never trust a liar.

Boris is a serial cheat and liar he was a worse than useless foreign secretary, a period he is keeping quiet about. But if that’s the sort people “ think will be a good PM” because he has a slimy charm and is “better than the alternative”, then we have sunk very low indeed.

I agree with you, Urmstongran, I voted leave and I think Boris will be the next PM but I thnk Boris Johnson will be a good PM.

evie I get so angry when people say “we survived ww2” - MILLIONS DID NOT SURVIVE WW2 stop insulting them by comparing a self inflicted political omnishambles to a global armed conflict in which millions died.

Hmmm ... interesting read.

Caledonail4 was absolutely right (a clap for him or her, please). I wasn't 'shouting', I was 'emphasising'. Sorry to all those who felt they were being yelled at. I shall aim to be more online-chat conventional in the future. (Then again, - probably not.)

I was shocked when Donald Trump was elected. But then I thought ... maybe ... just maybe, he'll turn up Trumps!

I feel the same way now about Boris. But there's not much to choose from is there? It's like trying to pick the one sound strawberry from a punnet of soggy ones.

Javid today stated he had no idea why he was left of the invites. Media seems to be going with he argued with Mr Trump on a couple of occasions and it may have been embarrassing for both to meet at such an occasion. Wonder what the media boffins thought would happen if they did. Boris looks to win, I just prey he can't really be as big a buffoon as he appears.

I think Rory sounds the best bet & according to Ken Clarke on LBC today he would also put him first. He said he had all Boris's best qualities, could do all the things Boris does well, but happened to be a serious & truthful politician. I also read somewhere that because he's honest he probably won't get very far. Perhaps true - what a sad world this has become.

Oh jeez; not WW2 again...[shakes head in disbelief...]