Jo Brand

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Labaik
"The referendum and it's repercussions have turned this country into a place that I barely recognise ..."
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This country has turned into a place a lot of us don't recognise but it doesn't help when people state as you did on the Banning Milkshake thread:-

"I'm quite proud of living in a country where anger and frustration results in the throwing of milkshakes,"

It is those who show anger at the route of the problem so perhaps you could be a product of what you find so sad.

sais said

Nigel Farage sais he would 'don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines', not quite the same thing as the abbreviated version some people are quoting.
In other words, he would go to war.
He did not advocate killing. It was a euphemism for 'war', a 'war' waged against those who stymied Brexit.
On the other hand, Jo Brand was suggesting that throwing acid woukd be more effective than milkshake and there are many dunderheads who would and could buy acid quite easily, perhaps even mixing it with milkshake and think they are being funny.

crystaltips

"However, because this is deemed to be a left wing comedian that no one seems to like it’s ok to get all foaming at the mouth about it and saint Nigel is excused."
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Who has excused Nigel Farage?

"I agree it doesn’t matter to whom the attack is directed, it is unacceptable."
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At least you have agreed it was unacceptable of Jo Brand, or can your words be misconstrued?

The referendum and it's repercussions have turned this country into a place that I barely recognise ...

I agree it doesn’t matter to whom the attack is directed, it is unacceptable. So if it is unacceptable for Brand to say something which was on a comedy show which no one listens to, and Farage said he would take up a rifle and this was widely reported - implying he would shoot someone, and this after Jo Cox had been shot, then both should be condemned. However, because this is deemed to be a left wing comedian that no one seems to like it’s ok to get all foaming at the mouth about it and saint Nigel is excused.

The word hypocrisy has been mentioned and what I find astonishing is there willl be / are people who make their decision as to ' whom' this type of hatred is shown and whether or not they feel this type of behaviour is acceptable.

It does not matter ' whom', it does not not matter whether you like somebody or not, it does not matter if you are politically for or against somebody.

The point is in the matter of Jo Brand you are either of the opinion it is offensive to make comments / jest about throwing acid over somebody or not. You can't on one hand believe in it being some sort of ' fair game' dependent on whether you like the person or not without being a hypocrite.

The cess pit of the politics and those who thinks it OK to carry placards that say ' kill / murder', the burning of effigies, effigies with ropes around their neck, effigies with knives in their back , mention of throwing acid over someone are acceptable only to those who certainly hold such venom they cannot and never will accept they are perpetrating such vile encitement to hatred and violence whilst perversely they will condemn it when it suits their agenda.

That is not only hypocrisy it is dangerous.

I'm not justifying her comment; just trying to point out that people who are up in arms about it are strangely quiet when it comes to death threats against Gina Miller, Anna Soubry etc...and I DO hold Farage and the leave campaign [along with the gutter press] responsible for Jo Cox's murder.

Yes pogs. If someone threw s milkshake at Corbyn and then a comedian said as Jo Brand did, I would find it funny. The political leaning of the comedian or of the putative politician does not affect my sense of humour. This does not mean I support throwing acid at anyone.

Labaik, you are desperately clutching at straws and trying to justify Brands disgusting comment.

Shame on you.

No one, comedian or otherwise went on national television to joke about hurting or killing a female politician.

The perpetrator of that act, the murderer, was roundly condemned by all upstanding, thinking people regardless of their political alliance. Why Jo Cox's name was dragged into this discussion is beyond me.

I thought similar, decent people would condemn Jo Brand. Seems I was wrong.

GillT57 Thu 13-Jun-19 15:23:05

" Well I thought it was funny"
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Out of interest would you find it funny if it wasn't Farage but let's say Corbyn or Cable?

IMO WadesNan it was most definitely a step too far.

People are living with life changing injuries due to acid attacks. I've always rather liked Jo Brand, not so much for her comedy but tv shows she's been involved with but I found this 'joke' distasteful.

Actually, elvive, my objection was to her being rude about people paying decent money to watch her when she didnt have the courtesy to be on time. You will be surprised to hear that the Tattoo started on time!

I didn't find it funny but I don't think she is funny, so no surprise there.

Well I thought it was funny. I have felt the same about him myself. I suppose this means I am a loony leftie. No worse than Farage saying he would don khaki and grab a rifle if he didn't get Brexit. On Newsthump some have suggested leaving the acid in the battery and throwing the whole thing.

Absolutely disgraceful remark. Another smug leftie moron.

'Now tell me why Jo Cox is relevant to this discussion' ..some people [myself included] believe that the racial hatred stirred up by Farage et al was responsible for Jo Cox's murder...

Day 6

I mentioned Jo Cox earlier.

I think reminding people of the murder of Jo Cox and the Hope Not Hate campaign is totally relevant to not only what Jo Brand has said but the general hate filled environment and incitement to hatred and violence some appear happy to spout.

I have just revisited old Gransnet threads on the murder of Jo Cox and it is troubelling that what was said at that time can be so easily forgotten whether by the country in general or individuals.

Unwise probably, but I confess I'd have laughed and winced at the same time - only because I can't stand the rightist moron to whom she referred.

Since when has advocating ABH been just 'unwise'?

Thank goodness for the rifles in 1939 - 1945, whitewave, or else we would be under the rule of those fascists that you so rightly despise.

I just think it is an horrible, awful thing to say about anyone, whoever you are, and could be dangerously inciting too.

I think I mentioned Jo Cox first. I was trying to make the point that since her murder, attitudes towards ‘jokes’ about physically harming politicians have ( or should have ) changed.

I think my previous sentence " JB should never have said what she did" pretty much covers it?

There's an awful lot of "whataboutery" going on in this thread. Surely it's possible to consider Jo Brand's "joke" in isolation from what others may have said. It was clearly a very unwise joke in this time when there have been acid attacks. It does seem incredible that the BBC didn't think they should edit the comment out, and clearly Jo Brand stands by it or she'd have wanted it edited out.

To those who engage in this thread but neither condone nor condemn, deflect or simply show no interest in answering the OP, what point are you trying to make?

There are times when arguing for the sake of it without putting forward any reasoned comment about the subject in hand simply remains ' arguing for the sake of it'

Do you have nothing, nada, zilch to say as to whether or not you believe it is acceptable for an individual to suggest ''throwing battery acid' over another person is acceptable or not, even if it is said supposedly in jest?

Accuse me now of being the thought police but I am happy to be called that even if just one of you answer.