Why do Conservatives like Johnson?

Well done Apricity...QED..a classic case of hari-kari

Actually harakiri - I&E - perhaps scope more of the latter?

Are you saying that pensioners who may be living in poverty, young families who need to use foodbanks, the homeless, anyone needing the NHS etc, ie anyone in this country in need should not be helped then, Elvive?

No I have never said that,why would I? I think it's a very dangerous situation where this us/them situation is creeping in and being whipped up by certain people.

Even in the Torygraph WW, so it must be true

It was always the case that Brexit was a right-wing power grab and I am now seeing reports of chants of "Tommy Robinson" and "Brexit" at Trump rallies.

Country’s

Yes gg3 there are rumours that backroom deals are being done by Johnson supporters in order to manipulate who comes up against him in the countrywide hustings.

There may not even be that many Whitewave, although it is certain they have been topped up by Brexit Party members. I just remind myself that Hitler was not swept to power on a wave of public support nor in a bold and decisive move to snatch control of the chancellorship, it was done through shady backroom deals and it seems this country will fall to such connivance too.

We don’t dislike Boris because “we fear he will deliver Brexit”, we dislike him because of the numerous reasons given ( untrustworthy, liar, engages mouth before brain, ego maniac etc etc), the only hope is that, given he’s known for u turns and deceit, and he’s not as dim as some of the others, he may decide to soften up his Brexit stance to one that matches reality.

ug I actually am not sure you are right with regard to Johnson.

Remember, he could have equally gone to the remain camp. He chose leave because he considered at the time that this was his best chance of getting the premiership. It has taken longer than he thought but it looks as if he will eventually get it.

Don’t be so certain that he will deliver Brexit as expected. If you have been paying attention to what he has said recently, it is by no means certain what he intends to do, and I suspect the ERG are beginning to understand that. Their only hope is that 5hey can pressurise Johnson I tondoing things their way, but I honestly don’t think he is the pushover that May was in trying to appease all sides. He will say the things they all want to hear until after his coronation, but who knows the course he will take after that?

No the reason anyone says that they don’t think Johnson would be a good prime minister, is because if his record and everything that has been said on all the treads.

GN has finally appeared to more or less all agree on one thing.

Johnson is not suitable to be this countries Prime Minister. Our great country deserves better.

THIS IS A RECORD ????

They like him because they are all like children.
They like the class clown until his antics mean they lose their playtime!!

Don’t forget annana that there are only 150k of them. A tiny community. And of course many will be new members fresh from the Brexit Party that they cant join as members, but can try to influence Brexit by nefarious means.

Oh my goodness, I am literally laying awake here in the USA fretting about our president and wondering why so many people turned out for his re-election rally yesterday. :p Paba24, at first I thought you were talking about HIM (Trump - liar, cheat, narcissist)! Am actually a bit depressed about it...

I think Remainers especially don’t like Boris because they fear he WILL deliver Brexit.

For those of us who voted Leave it’s about bluddy time. 3 long years of MP’s in the HoC trying to twist the referendum vote back to how they thought it would have been.

It’s been a shock for them and a trial for those who have been waiting for it to happen! Either Boris will get it done or Nigel Farage will. And at least this time the MP’s saw sense and refused to vote No Deal off the table.

S‘funny, how out of step the Conservatives are with the People

Oh my gosh, I was literally laying here awake in the USA fretting about OUR president and all of the people who showed up to support him at his re-election rally! Paba24, I thought you were talking about him (Trump) at first!! (liar, cheat, narcissist...). I will never understand the appeal.

David Davis supporting Johnson.

BBC question asked “should a prime minister be truthful?”

Davis was asked 5 times before he answered it with a qualified answer,

BBB “ should the prime minister be responsible when handling public money - Johnson squandered £64million on bridge plus other vanity projects?”

Again Davis was asked 4 times before answering with “£64 million is peanuts in the scheme of things”

So yes he agreed that Johnson squandered money but said it didn’t matter.

Oh well.
There is nothing democratic in this process, indeed this type of coronation only dates back to 1998 so it hasn’t even got the gravitas of age.

Grammareto like you, I have scrolled through this entire thread and have dropped deeper into despair with each page. I am approaching 80 and never have I witnessed such animosity in the very air we breathe. It’s got to the stage that when meeting anyone new, one is on the alert for any nuance that suggests Remain or Leave. I can see now how easily civil war breaks out. As for the OP, it’s just blatant ambition, it’s noticeable how they all say ‘party’ before they mention ‘country’. I’m hoping Boris will self destruct - his minders can’t be with him 24 hours a day if and when he’s PM. And why oh why after everything that’s now coming to light are we hell bent on leaving - it’s absolute madness .......

It's a nightmare. I've scrolled through this thread and just feel despair.
I wish I could see something good in BJ. I can't.

For the same reason the U. S. A. want Trump.

As Boris is a proven liar, he may actually be the one to keep us in the EU.

Well done Apricity...QED..a classic case of hari-kari. This is why Boris is liked so much..he advances an argument rather than as you have done to simply try to attack an individuals perceived qualities. I am sure you do have some valid thoughts which might have positively enhanced the discussion!!!!!

People who are 'impartial and educated' usually don't have to advertise these qualities quite so blatantly. Impartiality and education are apparent in the quality and strength of a person's argument and informed discourse on a topic rather than a self proclamed status.

Anyone got a shovel handy? That pit obviously needs lots more work so keep digging I&E.

Perhaps since the greater numbers reflect a wish for brexit and boris, could it be that your minority viewpoint may actually not be gospel as you arrogantly suggest. Our own people is a self explanatory concept, so to explain.... society is formed within a geograhical area usually referred to as a country and the citizens pay taxes which are spent on the citizens of that country,s needs. Some citizens may be unable to work to generate a contribution and sone may have no intention of so doing. Often those who contribute least and are often of lower intellectul awareness of the way the system should work have a conception that the pit containing taxpayers contribution is bottomless and there develops a mentality of entitlement that extends beyond the country. When the pit starts to become exhausted the elefted representatives have to decide where priorities lie, toward those who form the pit or those who do not. Putting america first exemplifies one train of thought supported by a majority of states in the usa. It's actually known as democracy!!!!!

There are very few people on GN who are championing Johnson it seems to me.

Certainly not 50 or 60 - I think there are scarcely that number who contribute to the political threads and I haven't seen many who support him.

It's all academic anyway.
Unless the vote goes out to Gransnetters too.

Hm999
Why would you want to apologise if you believe that which you wrote is true?
That's rank hypocrisy.

I think they just want Brexit. Once they have another General Election people might make a different choice.