Climate protesters at Mansion House

Totally agree with you Daisymae.

And didn't he enjoy being the "big man". News for you mister. You failed. You're just a bully.

lemongrove watch when the other protestors are ejected. There is one woman who walks well into the room and is blocked by a security man. He never touches her. All of the others are removed without aggression. Mark Field thought he could get away with it. One thing I wonder, knowing how to hold someone by the back of the neck is something you need to learn. As I said some male teachers used to use this to remove children and I know how to do it. I never used it on children but the person who showed me actually did it to me to show me, and it is painful and very controlling. So the question is where did Mark Field learn how to do this?

We won't be around to witness the devastation caused by mans' treatment of the planet. They will.

Yeah - I wondered about the neck-hold trisher. Seemed to come so naturally to him.

Of course I don’t think the young girl should stay at home while her family fly off on holiday Gonegirl what a ridiculous suggestion .

I just think people need to stop for a moment and think . What is the point of preaching about what “we” should/shouldn’t do and then conveniently not taking our own actions into account ? In my opinion we should all just be doing as much as we can. End of.

I think he's done it before Gonegirl.

I have suggested a rowing boat. Or his kayak.

frequent flyers like Emma Thomson, Leonardo diCaprio, Zuckerberg etc?
All very concerned and frequent flyers/private jet owners.

I understand now. It 's just 'the little people' who have to do their bit.
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Yes, I reckon so trisher. Horrible man!

Exactly Callistemon. That's what I have told GS. They are the ones we have to worry about.

It has been achieved, Gonegirl!
The rowing boat.

The plane is going to go, with or without him.
People won't want to stop flying, that's why we need alternatives - which are being developed.

That's what we have told him C (the plane is going anyway).

I can't open the link, but google 'electric plane' or 'hydrogen powered plane'.

Sadly, although I applaud young people like Gonegirl's grandson, there are plenty who don't give a thought to saving the planet.

You only have to witness the appalling mess left behind after festivals to realise they don't practice what they preach. At home, a dependency on ready meals and take-aways means excessive packaging and waste food ends up in landfill. After a boozy night with their mates they won't be 'washing and squashing' that's for sure.

Cheap clothing is often hardly worn before it also ends up in landfill.

Our generation was brought up to recycle and understand the good sense of avoiding waste so I get fed up with the criticism just because we won't be around to see the devastation caused by man. We can't be blamed for all of it.

Well said, Merlotgran
Yet again we saw litter from fast food, sandwich packets,plastic bottles, strewn on a lovely country road (impossible and too dangerous to stop and pick them up).
Who does this?

I think a lot of us on here were, as children, far more caring than today's you g people about the possessions we had including clothes, often made by our hard working mothers! The edict was that if you didn't look after toys, bicycle, anything really, when it broke, tore, was lost, you simply didn't get it replaced and had to go without! You might be lucky next birthday/Christmas, but couldn't bank on it. Collecting and disposing of litter was a must, I still care for things in exactly the same way, and yes, things do wear better and last longer by being "looked after", so for todays throw away generation to try to blame us for our present woes, is imo, a bit rich!!!

A large mural of the Swedish climate change activist Greta Thunberg has been painted on a wall in Bristol.

The 15m-high image took eight days to paint.

Artist Jody Thomas said Thunberg embodies a "new movement" in the fight against climate change.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-bristol-48471558/huge-greta-thunberg-mural-painted-on-bristol-wall

This is obviously a personal opinion and there will hopefully be due diligence done to extract the whole series of events.

If you have watched the recorded content of the Mansion House debacle and not just the video doing the rounds of the moment she is stopped by Mark Field you can get more context of what happened. You will see the woman places herself away from the large grouping of fellow activists and stands behind a row of chairs , in an aisle, on the tables that Mark Field is not sat on. All eyes are focussing on the cacophony of sound of the alarm/alarms thrown under the table/tables and the shouting of the activists.

At the time of the Mark Field incident she had made a dash from that position to go down the adjacent isle which was the route to the Top Table at the back of where Mark Field was sitting and he was positioned within a close proximity to the pillar which was impossible to avoid if you wanted to stop somebody as the gap was so narrow . She was now heading ' quickly ' to her destination of the Top Table .

She was not wearing a suicide vest, a stupid comment, however she was wearing a black shoulder bag which I noted was not visible on the other females I saw and ' nobody ' not you, not me , not Mark Field knew what was inside that bag which could have contained a weapon, acid , paint etc. Given she was moving in a determined , speedy manner toward the Top Table I too would have thought this is not natural and my instinct would have been the same as Mark Fields but obviously my action would be limited whereas his was ' act first think later ' and put himself between the activist and her destination.

I am not interested in her colour, her politics ,her age, her gender.

I am concerned with the overall picture of our politicians being seen as fair game by some activists /public and the vile/abusive/harassing nature some of the politicians have to live with daily.

The Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Cressida Dick has said threats to MPs are at "unprecedented" levels and MP's are warned to be observant and careful as the possibility of personal harm is obviously there constantly. It won't be a case of so much of where but when something will happen to shock ' most ' of the public again.

I agree merlot. Food for thought that. Might suggest to GS that ER have a presence at our local pop festival.

Good point.

pogs would your attitude have been the same towards the suffragettes?

Thanks for the link to that varian. Great mural! Very good.
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Why does everyone bring up the suffragettes? That was a different time, threats and violence towards the general public as well as MPs was not so prevalent.

I am still awaiting an answer to my question (now asked 3 times) whether those condemning him would be posting the same if this woman had been a Brexit supporter at a Union event.

Yes. It's the bullying violence that is the point here. "Big man" on woman.

merlot You seem to be assuming that the mess left at the end of festivals, fast food littering on the street, etc, etc, is caused by people who profess to care about the environment. Not all young people do care about the environment and I suspect that those who don't are more likely to be the ones who leave litter.

Rather than just bemoan these litterers, it is probably more constructive to collect some of the litter. Those who don't make the mess shouldn't have to pick it up, but there are people who feel strongly enough about it to do so.

Our whole economy is based on people continually buying - and people are encouraged to keep buying, whether they need to or not. If there is a fall in the sale of cars, clothes or any other products, this is reported as bad news. There is also the existence of built in obsolescence whereby things like electrical goods are designed not to last too long - or they contain elements that make it impractical and too expensive for them to be repaired. All these factors drive unnecessary and excessive consumption of material and labour resources.

I can see your point POGS. But I think the red dresses and the sashes made it obvious what it was about. He was not being a big hero protecting an MP. He was bullying a soft target.