Climate protesters at Mansion House

I would bet that there will be focus on sustainable food packaging at festivals this year, because of people like ER bringing it all to the fore.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 22-Jun-19 11:11:36

" pogs would your attitude have been the same towards the suffragettes? "
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YES!

It would if the suffragettes felt it acceptable to behave as some activists and public behave in 2019.

I would hope had the suffragettes been politically active now with the advent of social media, the media, ease of travel etc. they would behave with a hell of a lot more decency than some of those who see themselves as modern day suffragettes who to my mind hold some pretty nasty views , even with their ' jokes '.

pogs than you don’t know your history of the suffrage movement. You would have example after example if quite violent protest to chide and your bigoted attitude might have ensured that we didn’t get the vote.

As I have previously posted.

Those who are criticising the democratic protest movement of the Green movement are both bigoted and backward looking, especially as this is a subject that is such an emergency.

I seem to remember an elderly protester being evicted from a labour party conference/ meeting by two maybe three burly security(?) men in a very rough unnecessarily confrontational manner !! Not much fuss about that!! Also John Prescott actually punching a protester. I can only suppose that it's different rules for the left and therefore acceptable!!

Fortunately we live in a country where peaceful protests are allowed.

There are so many videos of similar situations which were dealt with appropriately. This one was not.

Do some people really look at climate change and think of it as only a left wing concern? The protesters were their because the right wing are in government at the moment so only they can legislate to improve matters.

POGS violent actions against women demonstrators brought many to believe in women's suffrage. When Black Friday happened the women demonstrating outside Paliament were physically assaulted. Little it seems has changed in some men's actions. But let's hope this woman's video will do for climate change what this headline did for women's suffrage

I know I should not have mentioned skin colour, it was wrong but I wanted to make the point that at this point in time the terrorists are not young girls in thin dresses supporting Greenpeace.
If we are going to be paranoid about everyone where does that leave us? It means men like Mark Field can excuse their bully behaviour.

It has been agreed that Heathrow will get another runway and the plans are massive.....that is the opposite of what needs to happen.
We have to curtail air travel not increase it.

A disturbing picture trisher but not in the same vein. That poor woman was knocked to the ground in the street by 3, or is it 4 men; yes disgraceful. That poor woman was entitled to be on the street, these women breached security at a sad time when threats toward MP's are becoming increasingly common.

IMO Frank Field reacted instinctively. She wasn't hurt and the expression on her face when she was being led out was more triumphant than distressed.

trisher...Police knocking women to the ground in a public
Place (suffragettes) a hundred years ago has little ( if anything!) to do with a protester being marched out of a private dinner that had been gatecrashed by a noisy group of protesters.Since we now have equality with men why should it make a big difference that this particular protester was a woman.

X posts Smileless

I am in agreement with your OP Urmstongran.

I am beginning to loathe these smug virtue-signallers and their narrative. She trespassed and given we have heard Jo Brand snidely remark battery acid would be a good fluid to throw at politicians you 'hate'I think MPs need more and more security.

Where were the people ensuring this event was safe? Where were the door men who shouldn't have allowed the trespasser to enter the building, never mind the room where these people were gathered? It is appalling that the women got so close.

I think Field acted instinctively. He was brave and not thinking of his own safety. The women could have been armed, carrying acid or knives or explosives. They had a desire to enter and get to the room and no one knew their purpose there.

Night club bouncers have to eject people using reasonable force. If she had been in another country the chances are she'd have been tasered or shot.

An unarmed man did what was right without thinking of his own safety. If she has been carrying a bomb or gun he'd have been a hero this morning instead of just another vilified white male.

It seems to me that if you are white and male you have become a person to despise in the UK. We must check this awful left wing trend of identity politics.

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Good job she wasn’t in France or many other countries in Europe.

Smileless
She wasn't hurt and the expression on her face when she was being led out was more triumphant than distressed

Exactly. The smugness of a virtue-signaller. A noisy but peaceful protest outside the building would have been just as effective. She may feel she has green martyr credentials now, silly woman.

Oh dear words like “smug” virtue signalling, loathe, and completely failing to see the similarity between the suffrage movement and their actions with the action of the climate change folk, shows a desperation. What they also fail to understand is that it isn’t a right/left issue.

WadesNan

I think most Remainers would condemn a similar action at a pro EU event (I assume that's what you meant by "Union") but I think it would be unlikely for such bullying to happen. After all the Remain marches for example have been peaceful events.

why do some posters always claim desperation on the part of other posters because they don’t happen to agree?
The main failing on GN is to never accept that others have valid views.I accept your view trisher even though it isn’t mine, without recourse to insults/negative comments.

Apologies to trisher......it’s WWM2 (both posters talking of suffrage.)

wadesnan if you scroll back to yesterday then you’ll see that I said in a post that it doesn’t matter what political affiliation someone has, Field’s out of control aggression is inappropriate as a response to the particular situation he was in. That goes for anyone in any forum: it was wrong.

Im so disgusted at this manhandling of a female. The man is a thug and should be sacked

I think she simply looked resigned when she was being frog-marched out. Wouldn't you be just that?

The protesters were their because the right wing are in government at the moment so only they can legislate to improve matters.

They were there to promote a cause.

Yes, the destruction of the earth is a worthy cause and something not a left or right wing cause.

Most thinking people, whatever their political beliefs appreciate the ways in which modern living is polluting and destroying the earth and we all do our own bit, probabaly, to look after our planet. We certainly do. The government, a Conservative one, is also making the right moves, as will a Labour one, I dare say.

I do not think that protest, which involved breaking in, and trespassing and posing a danger/threat to others, was appropriate or sensible. The woman involved is not a green warrior, she is a smug prat of the highest order, and Field turfed (no pun intended) her out because there was no security official to do it. That is also a cause for concern.

I have no qualms about peaceful protest. It is needed and in the past I've done my it on demos and sit-ins. I'd never have approached an individual with the aim of either screaming in his face or accosting him, nor would I have broken in to buildings. Criminal activity isn't clever, ever. What were her reasons for getting up close and personal?

She achieved nothing but is probably wallowing in her notoriety. Mark Field acted heroically, she behaved stupidly.

Heroically?!!! A man tackling a woman? How do you make that out?

If anyone thinks it doesn't hurt I suggest they get someone to grab hold of them by the neck and apply pressure. I can assure you it does hurt. (For maximum effect it should be someone who doesn't like you!)