Do we want a pound shop Trump?

Alarming reading WWM2. I had already read similar. How can Johnson 'invite' Farage to be his deputy unless NF is a Tory? It seems we're being stitched up.

No we don't want a pound shop Trump nor Mr Hunt who wants to privatise our NHS.
Boris said he is on the side of the bankers can you believe that? The greedy bankers who caused the crash to the economy.

36 Bankers, 96 Years In Jail. Local news outlet Fréttablaðið has calculated that in the past few years the Icelandic judiciary has sentenced 36 bankers to a total of 96 years in prison. All of the criminal cases are linked to the notorious crash of the Icelandic banking system in 2008.7 Feb 2018

As you know Mr Corbyn has a different view.

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One thing in Corbyn's favour------he'll at least attempt to stamp out this greed which is tantamount to a cancer which is spreading rapidly. I'm all for that as it's an obnoxious trait.

Can't argue with JC's comments on greedy bankers.

The vast majority of bankers operate above board and their remit is to make money, for their firms and, indirectly, for you and me.
It's a stressful job and yes, they are well rewarded in line with their successes.
As in every sphere of life, only controversial and illegal machinations command headlines.

Maybe the bankers should only get a reasonable reward for the stress of their jobs rather than the totally over the top ones they get at the moment. Many many other people have stressful jobs and are giving much more to the communities they live in without lining their own pockets - teachers, doctors, nurses besides those doing charity work and volunteering.
The Bankers worked very hard to cause the 2008 crash which we are still paying for - they managed to cause at least one bank to fail - although an American bank many employees in U.K. lost their jobs.
I am sure ‘we’ the general population are very low on the list when it comes to people benefitting from the schinanigans of the bankers!

The bankers caused the biggest economic recession in decades because of greed pure and simple.

They knowingly bundled bad mortgages and sold them in order to increase the money supply. Money which was based on nothing!

This

Peter Jukes
@peterjukes

Just to be clear to those who don’t know, beyond Trump campaign manager and Cambridge Analytica VP, who Bannon is.

He supports every far right political party in Europe - Le Pen, Orban, Wilders, Salvini, AfD

Our next PM is being advised by a Proto Fascist.

Scary stuff which needs to be made public.

In 2002 the big banks came under fire by an MP criticising the varying rates that are charged by them even though they quoted the same interest rate the charges varied by each one was as much as 40%. Greedy or what ?
The banks excuse was in case of the risks in credit card lending !

There'll never be transparency in the way that banks work.

Welshwife
Maybe footballers should only be paid for stress and not for 90 minutes of running up and down a field and occasionally kicking a ball.
No-one forces nurses to be nurses or teachers to teach or bankers to be bankers.
Only you choose your profession or career and if it's one where your salary is less than a banker, singer, sportsman/woman or a plumber, whose 'fault' is that?
You cannot then 'blame' them for choosing a field where the possible rewards are higher.

No one is blaming them for their salary/ bonuses (although you can question whether those huge bonuses are earned or necessary etc, but they are being blamed for illegal schemes that fed their greed for loads of money.

...and maybe not all people are altruistic.
I certainly wouldn't want to earn less just so that I can wear a halo and gripe at those who earn big bucks.
If teachers or nurses want to earn more there is always the private sector or bank nursing which pays far more than others doing exactly the same job.
It's not right to chide others for their free choice of career.
I myself have experience of working in both private and public sectors doing the same job and both were my choice.
Should more be thought of me for accepting the position attracting a lesser salary?

And maybe most people aren’t dishonestly getting loads of money and causing a collapse and recession.

Whitewavemark2
Oh I totally agree about the illegal schemes but let's not tar all bankers with the same brush.
There are many sectors to banking and not all of them are conducive to illegal trading.

I wasn’t aware that I was gg54g I’m simply reminding people of the devastation that the bankers caused to the world economy, and the fact that the poor are still paying the price.

I am very aware of all the banking sectors, having worked on banking tax and spending quite a few years in the City doing just that.

In my experience people opting to teach in private schools are often paid less and do not have the option of contributing to a pension scheme. Many bankers would not have the capacity or temperament to teach -particularly young or handicapped children.
Nurses doctors and other medical staff work extremely hard and in many cases have been paying for their training whilst working for nothing - they do it because they wish to help people.
As you say each to their own and many people are content to work in a profession which gives them satisfaction rather than having a goal to simply gain money which is more than they actually need to live a fruitful life.

ww quite

Why do people assume that because some of us criticise bankers that we are envious? We are however critical of their misdemeanors. The 2008 crash was caused by Americans and their sub-prime mortgages but the Labour Party and Gordon Brown are still blamed for the crash in the UK which was of course, a knock on effect of the US crash.

The film Margin Call starring Jeremy Irons is a story about 24 hours in the life of a Wall Street investment bank during the 2008 crisis. The film, which is based upon the collapse of Lehman Brothers, was shot over 2 weeks in their empty offices. Well worth a watch if you come across it.

As GG54 wrote above "their remit is to make money, indirectly for you and me". The crash certainly benefited some people, including Brits, who were able to buy houses in Florida at knock down prices as a result of the repossessions.

In that case it might be as well to write 'some bankers' and not just lump them all together by writing 'bankers' or 'the bankers', after all, it wouldn't be right to lump all GNers together under one heading such as 'argumentative' or 'judgemental' or would that be acceptable too?
I doubt it.

Welshwife
Each to their own.
People get satisfaction in various ways and who is to say which us right and which is wrong?
As you rightly say, some bankers both male and female would not be able to teach but you omitted to say that, by the same token, teachers or nurses would not be able to make money in the world markets or be hedge fund managers etc.
There are two sides to every coin and maybe those working in the financial sectors get a great deal of pleasure from making gains for their firms and being able to provide a nice standard of living for their families.
Show me a person who would turn down claiming a salary which exceeded the amount they needed to live on, I can just picture that scenario.
'£1m bonus?...oh no, I couldn't. Just give me the equivalent of a teacher's salary and I'll be happy'.
Tommy rot.

gg54 I’m sure readers are intelligent enough to understand that, and don’t need it to be tediously spelled out.

Back to the thread.

Let then call you racist...Wear it as a badge of honour’ - Steve Bannon addressing National Front rally with Marine Le Pen.

Four months later, he was advising Boris Johnson

given how much danger we are all in because of the pollution and other environmental issues I think people just chasing money do look very shallow and uncaring.
When greed comes into a person then everyone else seems to suffer.
We are supposedly a wealthy country but without enough paramedics/ambulances/hospital beds etc.

I have been watching the BBC series Ambulance and it is often heartbreaking to see the damage the cuts are doing.
If all those working in the Emergency call centres for example decided "that's enough I want to be a banker" then we won't have any kind of caring society at all just go back to a dog eat dog world.
Because of money chasing.
We have lots of middle management but not enough doctors and nurses.
I am using the NHS just as one example.

Govt cuts to councils mean not enough social care.
People are suffering.
because the people at the top are chasing private wealth.

Too much is justified by saying money, and it is not going to make for a healthy planet. Or a healthy society

So if Johnson is linked to Bannon then yes we are going to hell even quicker. Not that Hunt is any better choice.