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Women footballers-inequali ty and attitudes

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trisher Mon 24-Jun-19 20:00:33

I happened to watch some of the Cameroon-England match last night. I'm not a football fan but I thought I should see what our young women were up to. Today I was shocked to see some of the condemnation of the Cameroon team, particularly from the England coach (male). A more balanced article in the Guardian told a more complicated story of girls fighting to keep their team with little or no medical insurance. I then looked up Cameroon and found out about female inequalities there. Now it seems to me that one thing women's football should do is to provide other women with support and encouragement, that this match and particularly the coach is taking women along a route they shoud refuse to go down, but they should stand together. And the least the England women's team could be is magnanimous in victory and recognise the Cameroon women for their bravery and endurance under circumstances they will probably never experience. www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/24/cameroon-england-women-world-cup-2019-context-meltdown

merlotgran Mon 24-Jun-19 20:38:45

Are you seriously excusing the behaviour of the Cameroon team, trisher? hmm

merlotgran Mon 24-Jun-19 20:39:36

I thought our girls were very restrained, especially the one who was spat on.

gillybob Mon 24-Jun-19 20:48:52

I agree with you merlot the behaviour of the Cameroon team was disgraceful and inexcusable. Deliberate Spitting right onto an English player, elbowing, stamping on ankles, foul language, arguing with the referee and then daring to claim racism . They should be banned .

GrannyGravy13 Mon 24-Jun-19 20:53:39

I have seen the repeated clip of the Cameron player deliberately barging into the back of the referee, not sure that could be classed as "football etiquette"

Grannybags Mon 24-Jun-19 21:00:24

Sorry trisher but I agree with the others. The Cameroon team were a disgrace

Alima Mon 24-Jun-19 21:13:54

It was a World Cup football match. Presumably those in the Cameroon side were conversant with the rules of football. They acted disgracefully on occasion. Admittedly the referee could have calmed the situation by issuing yellow or red cards maybe. Trisher, you have just given a wonderful example of why I never feel the need to read the Guardian. Piffle.

Sar53 Mon 24-Jun-19 21:15:14

I agree the Cameroon team were totally out of order. Phil Neville was correct in what he said, they shamed Women's football and set a dreadful example to all the young girls (and young boys) who love the game.

trisher Mon 24-Jun-19 21:26:14

I didn't say the Cameroon team had behaved well. I did say that in behaving as they have and with the coach saying what he did the English team have done little to progress the cause of women's football in the world and in the country of Cameroon in particular. Perhaps those condemning them should take a look at what life in Cameroon is like the inequalities that still exist and the tremendous strides these young women have taken
this is the position on women's rights www.wikigender.org/wiki/africa-for-womens-rights-cameroon/
the privileged English women should consider this.

merlotgran Thu 27-Jun-19 22:05:15

Well done, girls. Fantastic goal from Lucy Bronze.

Now the semis!

Grandad1943 Thu 27-Jun-19 22:27:55

Yes, Englands Lioness wonders roar on.

Great stuff, in the semi finals and like so many, I can hardly believe it. We sat there shouting and screaming at the Tele, and they truly did us proud.

A great lift to the country amid all the gloom.

Lazigirl Thu 27-Jun-19 22:28:03

Great girls. They definitely show up our male team.

Grandad1943 Thu 27-Jun-19 22:38:46

merlotgran Quote [ Well done, girls. Fantastic goal from Lucy Bronze.] End Quote.

Got to agree there merlotgran, the Lucy Bronze strike was one of the best taken goals seen in years I felt.

Terrific skill and football at its very best.

Callistemon Thu 27-Jun-19 23:20:16

There is no excuse for spitting, barging, stamping on opponents and bad language - the Cameroons need to take enormous strides to improve their behaviour, trisher, otherwise they could be banned.
The English women have no need to be magnanimous in the face of all that.

Does this mean that the Lionesses will be the European side picked to play in the Olympics? Did I hear that?

DanniRae Fri 28-Jun-19 07:15:43

I was disgusted at the behaviour of the Cameroon team and, sorry, but after reading trisher's post I still feel the same.

Great game last night - on wards and upwards for the Lionesses!!

kittylester Fri 28-Jun-19 08:56:11

Surely comparing the conditions in Cameroon and the rules of international football is impossible.

Jabberwok Fri 28-Jun-19 09:23:43

Good behavior costs absolutely nothing. Bad behaviour damages womens football and plays right into the hands of those who would demean it. "Mentally, physically, emotionally unfit!" You can hear them saying it!!

EllanVannin Fri 28-Jun-19 09:33:14

____not interested in football whatsoever and would never go the length of my nose to watch any match, least of all involving women players !!

DanniRae Fri 28-Jun-19 09:37:18

So why did you take the trouble to post Ellan? Seems a strange thing to do if you are not in the least bit interested! confused

merlotgran Fri 28-Jun-19 09:39:51

What's wrong with women playing football?

trisher Fri 28-Jun-19 09:53:30

Nothing wrong with women playing football, but those women who have equality and freedoms in their home countries should be aware that some women still dont have basic rights and should recognise this when they come up against such teams. Even if it only takes the small action of not commenting or criticising. For those who wouldn't read it Women's football in Cameroon - The domestic league has been stopped on several occasions because of a lack of finances and the players barely have any medical insurance to cover injuries. There is also still a stigma attached to the sport in that it is supposedly – on the women’s side – being played by school dropouts and delinquents
Our women should realise this and acknowledge the difficulties the Cameroon team has encountered. If women play football they don't have to take on men's attitudes.

gillybob Fri 28-Jun-19 09:58:26

Plenty sportspeople have huge hurdles to get over in order to reach their goals (sports puns aplenty). But that in itself does not excuse the awful behaviour of the Cameroon team. Spitting, stamping, elbowing, arguing etc. Our women footballers have behaved very well indeed and I am happy that they will be roll models for young girls like my granddaughters who are sports mad.

Callistemon Fri 28-Jun-19 09:59:19

It's football, not politics.

trisher Fri 28-Jun-19 10:11:15

I HAVEN'T excused any behaviour. I HAVE asked that English women football players behave as women first and footballers second and understand where their sister players are coming from.

merlotgran Fri 28-Jun-19 10:40:01

Our women should realise this and acknowledge the difficulties the Cameroon team has encountered. If women play football they don't have to take on men's attitudes.

I really don't get your point, trisher. The England team were restrained despite constant provocation. What else could they have done, let them win?

The Cameroon team should have accepted the referee's decisions especially as they were backed up by VAR. Their behaviour was unacceptable. How do you know the English women football players didn't understand where their sister players were coming from. This was a football match not a political platform.