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Tory Islamophobia

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EllanVannin Tue 25-Jun-19 19:09:03

To me it boils down to one thing concerning politicians----they're very immature, particularly that big girls blouse who rowed with his girlfriend. Decent sensible people don't act like BJ did for all the public to hear-----just like the spoilt brat that he is.

None of them fool me !

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jun-19 19:01:42

I prefer to deal with facts if possible as without facts we could say anything about anything - therein lies madness.

My opinion?

Johnson is using dog whistle politics to attract the hard right vote, and taking lessons from Bannon and Farage in doing so.

I frequently read that Tory party members including councillors, MPs etc have used quite appalling language. It seems to happen too often to suggest its just the odd one off.

EllanVannin Tue 25-Jun-19 18:53:00

Never mind quoting others, go by your own opinion.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jun-19 18:52:29

Of course we could use other phrases.

I could offer

Widespread,

Very common

Regularly found

Characteristic of

Lots more —you pays your money and takes your choice.

But it all means the same thing I.e. the Tories are islamophobic.

EllanVannin Tue 25-Jun-19 18:51:54

Anything can be a phobia if you WANT it to be.
The idea is to be strong and NOT to go with the flow. Try saying NO to phobias for a change.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jun-19 18:46:34

No not my opinion I was quoting Baroness Warsi, but there are other of the Muslim faith whom I could point to you of the same opinion or fact.

EllanVannin Tue 25-Jun-19 18:40:26

Why must every " phobia " have to be endemic ?
Just because the herd mentality says so ?? Simple minds !

eazybee Tue 25-Jun-19 18:36:55

Sajid David was given the chance to be Prime Minister; he made it through to the final five, and was judged by his performance.

'Islamophobia is endemic' is your opinion, not a fact.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jun-19 18:04:24

Even if Javid had made it to the final two he still wouldn’t have got the premiership if the article is anything to go by.

Islamophobia is endemic

EllanVannin Tue 25-Jun-19 17:57:55

Sajid Javid should have been given the chance to be PM. He might have made a difference.
He couldn't have done any worse than what we'll end up with.

Anniebach Tue 25-Jun-19 17:42:37

They are having an independent enquiry. It was a mixture of shock, embarrassment and disgust when Labour held their enquiry , followed by Shami Chakrabarti racing off to the Lords

Day6 Tue 25-Jun-19 17:32:41

Apologies - I copied and pasted Sajid Javid's name incorrectly too.

Day6 Tue 25-Jun-19 17:31:11

That appears to be what Savid Javid got them to agree

I have to smile.

A few days ago a man of Muslim heritage was in the race to become Prime Minister - head of Government. He'd have been the UK's first PM from a Muslim background - (although he is married to a Christian and doesn't practise any religion.)

And the Conservative party gave him the opportunity to rise through the political ranks. Oh the irony!

I do think much of this is tit for tat nonsense, brought about because of accusations of antisemitism raised against Corbyn's Labour party.

I am glad any allegation of Islamophobia is being investigated. Any decent party would welcome exploring and solving such an issue.

Devorgilla Tue 25-Jun-19 17:26:01

Correction: Sajid Javid

Devorgilla Tue 25-Jun-19 17:12:15

That appears to be what Savid Javid got them to agree in one of the Leadership debates. Think Boris was there so that would be the BBC one.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jun-19 17:08:57

I believe that they intend to have an independent enquiry into this

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