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Hunt will continue dithering if he wins.

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Day6 Wed 26-Jun-19 20:30:14

This, from the Spectator, regarding leaving the EU on Oct 31st.

"Trying to force Brexit on that date, Hunt said, could lead to a general election, a Corbyn government, followed by no Brexit at all. If the government were close to cutting a deal, he has said, then we should extend the deadline. If there were no deal in sight, on the other hand, Hunt says he would take Britain out of the EU without a deal."

"But how much difference, in practice, is there between what Boris and Hunt are saying? Both, after all, are saying that they are prepared to leave without a deal – and the EU is adamant that it will not reopen negotiations."

"There is a strong likelihood, then, that we will end up leaving without a deal. All that Hunt’s approach would achieve is to prolong the day of reckoning yet further, put it off maybe another two, three months.

I don't think any of us could bear the dithering to go on.

I feel Brexit has to happen and if Boris Johnson is the MP who will take us out on Oct 31st, deal or no deal, he is the best man for the job. IMO.

I am not enamoured with either MP, but the one who is going to make it happen has to take the reins after Theresa May's futile attempts to get us out. I don't think the next PM will be in office long, but whether it is Johnson or Hunt, the man who pulls the plug on the EU will be remembered.

jura2 Wed 26-Jun-19 20:38:22

Can you not see why he would 'dither' ?

He knows the damage No Deal would cause to the UK businesses, fiancial services, and the poorest in society. So does BoJo bTW.

Eloethan Wed 26-Jun-19 20:57:28

What a horrible situation - I can't bear, and don't trust, either of them.

Cherrytree59 Wed 26-Jun-19 21:05:11

Joe public may have concerns re Brexit and whether the new PM is up to the job.
Not so our MPs

It would seem that the parliamentt has voted 223 to 25 to take a summer recess from July 25th to September 3rd.

As of tbe 25th July parliament will spend
6 of the 15 weeks before 31st October not in session.

So Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt will spend 6 weeks in parliament not having to answer to Parliament.

What did the EU say..
Don't waste this extensionhmm

Cherrytree59 Wed 26-Jun-19 21:08:23

Sorry shoud read ...
6 weeks in Number 10 not having to answer to parliament.

EllanVannin Wed 26-Jun-19 21:15:44

I'd still like to know the truth of why everyone's so keen on leaving the EU. It doesn't affect any one of us individually does it ?
Except those who have either lost their jobs or are about to lose them because of Brexit where companies/factories/manufacturers/ businesses are leaving the UK and moving abroad because of the uncertainty here.

Caledonai14 Wed 26-Jun-19 22:09:29

I don't understand it either Ellan. Andrea Leadsome was still insisting today on Politics Live that a "bright future" awaits us after Brexit, but all I can see is that we will be more under the thumb of Trump and the Saudis because we will be desperate for trade. I still don't know why we would expect to get as good a deal as we already have with our nearest neighbours. They weren't kidding around when they warned us not to waste the time and Parliament should stay in session as we do appear to be facing a national emergency. I am very worried that Boris Johnson sees some huge joke that we are not seeing.

Dinahmo Thu 27-Jun-19 00:45:15

Many years ago a film called Last Year in Marienbad was popular in the art houses. The director was reputed to have cut the tapes into pieces, thrown them up in the air and then stuck them together in a random fashion. The more right wing Tory MPs, including the ERG are doing just that. The sad thing is that none of them will be affected financially and will be able to ride out the coming storm. None of them are thinking about their constituents, despite the recent rhetoric about schools, the NHS, social services, housing etc etc. They've had 10 year ins which to do something and have done little or nothing. Why should we trust them?

Anja Thu 27-Jun-19 07:32:04

This is a complete shambles and if a general election was called this government would not be in power. And the Tories are more concerned about staying in power than what is good for this country.

Trust them Dinahmo? I would let them look after my cat if I was away for a weekend.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 27-Jun-19 07:32:21

Apparently his tax plans will make austerity even worse.

Time the Tories imploded, they are good for nothing.

Anja Thu 27-Jun-19 07:32:35


M0nica Thu 27-Jun-19 10:28:53

WWM2 But what might result if they did? We could end up with a far right populist party, a combination of the Brexit Party and the right wing of the current Conservative party that would sweep the country and give us a government more aggressively and unapologetically right wing, more anti immigrant, anti-European than the current government. A cross between the republican red necks of the USA and Italy's current government. Would that be an improvement?

Do not kid yourself that Labour would sweep the board and introduce a socialist Utopia. They wouldn't.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 27-Jun-19 10:58:12

I am worried that if the Conservative Party does implode, it will not be Jeremy Corbyn as our PM but Nigel Farage.

There are a lot of angry voters around, totally disenfranchised with politics, and they could use their vote as a protest against the main political parties.

I did vote leave, I am a Conservative but I have come to the conclusion that unity of the UK is more important than my mistrust of the EU Head Honchos.

If there was to be a second referendum I think I might abstain, would be the first time I have not cast my vote.

SirChenjin Thu 27-Jun-19 11:01:02

How are they planning to get a no deal through Parliament? My understanding was that Parliament has already said it will block that.

jura2 Thu 27-Jun-19 15:54:19

If Boris tries to by-pass and prorogue Parliament- he will have a Revolution in the House, the Lords and in the streets- for sure.

Democracy ... they said sad

SirChenjin Thu 27-Jun-19 16:02:52

Boris or Hunt. I listened to the latter on Jeremy Vine yesterday (had to switch off in disgust) and Hunt confirmed he would go for a no deal if those pesky europeans didn't remember their place and give us what we wanted (I paraphrase obviously). They both appear to forget that Parliament has a vote on these things and I suspect - as you say jura2 - they'll have a revolution on their hands if they attempt to undermine or block that process.

Daisymae Thu 27-Jun-19 16:47:18

This government's weak leadership has dragged this country down. With Johnson in the driving seat I guess we'll find out how low we can go.

jura2 Thu 27-Jun-19 17:06:58

Is there anyone on here who believes Parliament should be by-passed/prorogued?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 27-Jun-19 18:01:50

jura2 not me.

jura2 Thu 27-Jun-19 18:42:46

I'd guessed GG13 - and I am glad to see there is no-one on GN who would ;)

Callistemon Thu 27-Jun-19 19:36:00

Nor me!

Hunt's latest is that those who start up businesses and employing 10? people within 5 years will not have to pay back their tuition fees from university.

Now, where does that leave teachers, nurses, doctors, other professionals?

And, in many cases, those who set up entrepreneurial businesses are not necessarily those who went to university anyway - they may consider it a waste of 4 or so years when they could be getting on and setting up their businesses.

Dinahmo Thu 27-Jun-19 20:25:32

Re tuition fees - if the entrepreneurs had been to university and they made a lot of money, why shouldn't they pay back their fees. One assumes that they learned something that helped them in their business.

jura2 Thu 27-Jun-19 20:26:41


Resurgam123 Thu 27-Jun-19 20:32:36

I dont trust Corbyn. As far as have seen Corbyn seems to have been an invisible man throughout this campaign.

jura2 Thu 27-Jun-19 21:11:40

You can see the invisible? LOL...

on the other hand, should Keir Starmer take over ...he was brilliant in the HoC today.