Boris says Oz ‘points system’ coming here.

What system do we have for non-EU migration? I thought we had work permits, minimum salary level etc? Surely also some of our problems are caused by emigration - some of our best scientists, doctors, nurses leave? So perhaps it would be useful for Boris Johnson to come up with retention ideas as well as ideas for training more home grown talent. That’s why I think this topic is so complex and there are no quick fix solutions but rather a raft of short, medium and long term planning is needed

It doesn’t, that is an urban myth. However I am happy to be proved wrong if evidence is produced.

My next door neighbour who emigrated to Australia about 8 years ago now, had to have a job to go to, a place to live and she had to show that she could keep herself and her two children. That is the way to do it.

Why should a Country and it`s people, feed, keep and house others who haven`t worked or paid into the system. It`s just ludicrous and needs to stop.

Ah, the points system !
Because my D and SiL emigrated to Oz and became citizens there in the 80's and I'm the mother of my daughter, I can't choose to live there just like that, without going through a load of questioning etc etc and even then I could be turned down, yet my daughter is settled there and made it her home. So unfair that I never had the choice without going through the rigmarole of emigration.

Even if I'd overstayed my holidays, I wouldn't then have been allowed back into the country for 5/6 years.

It's a heart-breaking system for those who are left behind------so NO to a points system here !

I'd love my GD and her children to have better lives but they can't just up sticks and go. Australia needs populating more than we do and given the choice I'd be there instead of here.

Yes, that’s we he said, but in truth it isn’t a huge difference from what we have now. It is just that the government had never enforced the rules. The only difference will be that people coming here will be coming to a job.

At the moment the rules say that if you arrive and are not employed within months of arrival you must leave the U.K., this has never been enforced.

Mr Johnson said: ‘We must be much more open to high-skilled immigration such as scientists, but we must also assure the public that, as we leave the EU, we have control over the number of unskilled immigrants coming into the country. We must be tougher on those who abuse our hospitality. Other countries such as Australia have great systems and we should learn from them.’

Boris ‘says’ what people want to hear.

So Australia uses the point system to encourage immigration, albeit of the sort of skills they need, their total level of immigrants is a much higher % than the U.K.

So how Johnson expects this to work is yet to be made clear, although the present government does operate a type of points system from immigrants outside of the Eu, and largely leave it up to industry to police this. What Johnson is definitely not saying is that he intends to reduce immigration.

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Here is the link to work out if you have enough points to emigrate to Australia. You need to accrue 60 points to pass.

www.visabureau.com/australia/immigration-points-test.aspx

How much do you actually know about the system in Australia opal? It would be good if we could all know in detail so we can understand why we should share your enthusiasm.

I don’t know enough to comment on this yet - I would need to understand the Australian system, how well it is working and if it would be appropriate for our very different society and then compare it to the system we are using at present for non-EU migrants and how well that is working. That’s a lot I need to know.

About bloody time!

There have alwys been control on immigration ..the UK government didn't enforce most of them .Westminster is/was at fault not the EU .As we NEED immigrants badly in a lot of areas lets hope Boris doesn't get in or that his points system wont chase away the nurses and doctors and health care workers and all the other trades where we are pretty desperate for people.In fact lets hope Boris and the tories just fall off the planet ..it'll be a far better place without them !