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Is anyone else concerned about 5G?

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M0nica Tue 02-Jul-19 11:08:19

Any increase in the incidence of cancer is due to a number of reasons included our increased longevity. The peak age range for being diagnosed with cancer is 85 - 89. As more people survive illnesses that previously killed people (infections, heart disease, tb etc etc] they end up living to an advance age when their bodies are less efficient and beginning to mal function and cancer is often a result of this malfunction

There are, and always have been contaminants in the atmosphere and life style choices that make some people more likely to get certain cancers, including young children.

For more information check www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/incidence#heading-Zero

ReadyMeals Tue 02-Jul-19 10:51:56

Oh these stories and superstitions do the rounds every time some new technology comes out :D Everything has the potential to damage us - true. But to put it into perspective, did you know that oxygen, that we rely on to keep us alive, is also one of the most corrosive and toxic substances around? Most of the effort spent by our bodies is in repairing the damage done to cells by oxygen.

EllanVannin Tue 02-Jul-19 10:37:55

Strange how we have more cancers than ever before, which can't all be blamed on lifestyle as sadly babies and children are also affected.
Crop spraying is another danger, nobody knows what these minute particles contain that are breathed in. Every illness/virus is airborne and it depends upon a person's ability/immunity whether or not they can shake it off-----babies and small children who don't have immunity can't. Neither can those whose immunity is also impaired due to ill health. Life now is a lottery through supply and demand-----and greed ! At the expense of people's health.

M0nica Tue 02-Jul-19 08:53:07

But also www.newscientist.com/article/2174540-no-mobile-phones-still-wont-give-you-brain-cancer/

notentirelyallhere Tue 02-Jul-19 08:43:21

This is the scientist I mentioned, an easy to read page about her research including references to her work with diabetes and multiple sclerosis showing the effect of microwave radiation on those conditions magdahavas.com/biography/

notentirelyallhere Tue 02-Jul-19 08:25:22

There is reputable science showing effects on biological tissues and immune systems from mobile phone signals but it's a small segment of the larger science, funded by big business, showing no problems.

I was part of early campaigns and also took part in an early research trial which was a bit of a sham.

The UN class mobile phone signals as a carcinogen, our own government recommends that primary school children don't use mobile phones. One could go on. Other countries ban masts near schools. Its worth Googling the work of Magda Havas, a senior scientist at Trent University who has done extensive work on the biological effects of electromagnetic fields and radiation.

I am concerned about 5G but like others, feel that ordinary people have little possibility of making a difference to the rollout. Also a lot of people would rather opt for an easy life and want to do things like watch films on their phones or download huge files (why?) and value convenience over caution. The study of risk calculation in social behaviour is an interesting area!

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Jul-19 08:10:50

Peonyrose, as you state, all life is a gamble. In that, one of the first things that anyone is taught on learning industrial/workplace safety is that there are risks to be found in everything we carry out.

It is how anyone asseses, evaluates and handles those risks that is the essence of retaining personal safety.

M0nica Tue 02-Jul-19 08:08:23

Any new technology, especially one people do not understand, collects stories about it damaging health and bringing doom and disaster to us all.

A couple of decades ago, when computer use became wide spread, there were stories of people who were so allergic to elctro-magnetic pollution that they had to live in tents on remote Scottish Islands or other remote locations. We have not heard much about them recently, despite the rapid increase in electro magnetic activity.

But let us put it in context.The everyday pollution from the internal combustion engine is known to emit many many times more pollution than any electro magnietic pollution and kills far more people in far more ways than the rumours, mainly unsubstantiated, about the health dangers of electro-magnetic pollution and although we all may worry about it, we still get in our cars, travel by bus and plane and accept that most of our goods reach us by lorry.

Easier to worry about vague pollution that might damage us than do something about the real pollution that we know damages millions.

Bordersgirl57 Tue 02-Jul-19 08:07:16

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Peonyrose Tue 02-Jul-19 08:00:53

I mainly use my microwave more than oven and hob. Have done for over 30 years. I think some people are more likely to develop problems as with mobile phones others it doesn't seem to affect. All life is a gamble. I choose not to do spend much time on computer and phone as I become almost lethargic, others love the technology.

Grammaretto Tue 02-Jul-19 07:54:11

I'm sure you are correct BradfordLass after all just look at motor cars! They are far more dangerous than aeroplanes if you look at the stats but it's a risk most of us take everyday.
I still refuse to have a microwave cooker after reading some alarming health connections and ofcourse it is a luxury we can do without
A village near us refused to have a mast for mobile coverage and each time one was erected, it would mysteriously come down again overnight.

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Jul-19 07:52:19

Further to my above post above, 5G when fully developed will mean that there will be no requirement for the television aerial on your home, or the Satellite dish on the side, or the wired Broadband/wifi that is at present required to post on this forum by many.

I believe we will all be using it in a few years time and not thinking twice about it.

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Jul-19 07:41:38

When television first became within the price range of the average person in the 1950s, it was being said that all those signals were affecting Britains weather. My parents became convinced that the above was true when we had two years of poor weather while on our holidays at Portsmouth. grin

We have now also witnessed Donald Trump ban companies from dealing with Huawei due to so-called security issues with 5G installation. However, we now have that ban reversed as it soon became apparent that it was damaging the United States economy more than the Huawei sales and the Chinese economy.

This concern regarding 5G is all about money and nothing else as their will be enormous rewards for the companies and countries that are at the forefront of this technology.

Sara65 Tue 02-Jul-19 07:25:02

Sadly I think you are right Bradfordlass

I don’t know anything about it, but I’m sure is there are serious concerns, they’ll be brushed under the carpet.

Back in the day, when at about age twelve, my youngest got a mobile phone, I was adamant she use it only to text, because using it as a phone could cause brain tumours, still don’t really know if that’s fact or speculation!

BradfordLass72 Tue 02-Jul-19 01:23:14

I remember when it was proved (not assumed) that cellphone masts sited within 8km of a school or kindy, depleted the effectiveness of T-lymphocyte cells. These are the cells which fight cancer.

There was an outcry and marches and all the usual protests about the endangered health of our children. I was part of the research project and the protests.

Did it change anything? Of course it didn't because big business was backing it and it was in their best interests to make sure everyone had a cell-phone and blanket coverage.

5G may be horrifically dangerous, someone may even come up with proof but because 5G benefits business and increases profits, are protests going to do any good at all, however worried we are?

Eloethan Mon 01-Jul-19 23:33:02

I do not have a scientific background and so find it difficult to establish the veracity or otherwise of various reports regarding a number of scientific/medical issues.

Recently there have been several reports expressing concern about the roll out of 5G technology. It appears that there are reputable scientists and medical experts who feel that this technology may be damaging to people's health. There are claims that no proper trialling of the technology has been undertaken and that no insurance companies are prepared to offer cover for possible damage caused by 5G.

Many of these concerns will be written off as emanating from "cranks" and "conspiracy theorists" - and that may be the case. However, I today read a recently written article in Computer Weekly that made me wonder if it is true that no proper risk assessments have been carried out and whether at least some of the concerns expressed may be valid.

www.computerweekly.com/feature/Mobile-phones-and-health-is-5G-being-rolled-out-too-fast