Tommy Robinson

johno - the way to reply is via the comment/text box as you have been doing. You can also send personal messages to others via the drop-down "dots".
It's not a forum where you can slot-in a comment directly after a post which is why quite a few people (like me) use the name of the person they are replying to in bold and the comment (if need be for clarity) in italics
Hope this helps.

The problem lemongrove for me has been the very shouty, hectoring response. Also the poster who just called us virtuous sheeple blindly following others opinions. I found that really unacceptable and said so. I agree it got very heated and I wouldn’t have sworn but it was also hard being accused of not caring about the grooming when in fact it’s because I care so much that I minded very much that Robinson endangered the trials. I also still stand by his being a racist and that posters who support him and his actions so uncritically really do open themselves up to accusations of being racist themselves. He (TR) really is a violent criminal racist thug and I stand by that.

Having a direct quote box/bubble on GN would be great ( I have asked a few times but the answer is no.)

lighten the mood a bit?

If more than six of us ask GN for a quote facility, wonder if it would happen? ?

I find it so sad and depressing that the highly vocal posters who are quick to throw the racist card do not recognise that the vast majority of Brits are not racist. What nearly all are concerned with are FGM being eradicated from UK. Grooming gangs being brought to justice, trafficking of the vulnerable into prostitution and more. Remember the MP for Keighley who tried to bring this to the public attention years ago. The naive virtue signallers jumped on her...look where we are now. Do the parents of Lee Rigby think different ideologies should not be challenged because those who practice these extreme ideologies may be offended. Yes, to a large extent we should live and let live whilst recognising that this is not a one sided issue. There is bad in all communities and racism is inherent in humanity and most life forms have prejudicial practices to protect their groups.
The vast majority of us are of non native British stock. The vast majority of recent migrants are here for economic reasons, they are not poor illiterate weak willed people, though the virtue signallers choose to think of them so because to do so makes them feel good. Throwing the generalised racist stunt does these people a disservice. Yes, deal with injustices as they arise, but don't regard all immigrants as oppressed. If you do apply it to all immigrants, those from US, Australia etc.

All decent upright people go about knocking other people to the ground don't they? (No they don't actually)

mindless yob or lovely man?

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Don’t you see Joelsnan that your post is an example of what’s wrong with some posts on this thread. You see posters do not recognise that the vast majority of British people are not racists. I’m not discussing the vast majority but I’m discussing Tommy Robinson and his supporters who are racist. I’m discussing his behaviour which was dressed up as concern which was an attack on the justice system.

say not see

I find it so sad and depressing that the highly vocal posters who are quick to throw the racist card do not recognise that the vast majority of Brits are not racist (Joelsnan)

Who is arguing with that? I thought we were talking about this "Robinson man" not the majority of Brits.

I don't understand the relevance of your post Jn.

" * Do the parents of Lee Rigby think different ideologies should not be challenged* "

Of course they don't. Neither does anyone else. (So long as the ideologies are harmful).

Johno - A cousin of mine was doorstepped twice in 24 hours back in January by a coked-up TR and his pals and the police have done nothing.
TR moans and whines about his wife and children receiving death threats but it's seemingly OK for him to scare the lights out of an innocent man who he falsely believed was the cause of him being sent a solicitors letter. He's also done the same to the parents of an 18 year old lad who he again falsely believed gave out his home address on Facebook.
He's the pot calling the kettle as he's also been convicted of beating up his g/f in 2005 and assaulting the off-duty cop who came to her aid. A woman who's now his wife and whom he consistently ran down on social media before his ban.

Lovely chap, and you wonder why Gransnetters criticise you for your support of him!

He is also being sued by the Syrian schoolboy in Huddersfield who he falsely accused of assault on others as a way of blaming the boy for being bullied and attacked (by a white boy of course). He put the Syrian boy in more danger of further attacks. How anyone with a grain of humanity can support or defend this ‘man’ is just beyond me. He is the epitome of obnoxiousness.

I'm actually astounded that GNHQ are allowing far right supporters to air their views on here. I know it all comes down to the "forum rules", but thinking outside the box for once might not be a bad idea.

He is certainly pugnacious. I read he chose his moniker as a tribute to some boxer. That cap fits. Cocky individual.

Pugnacious and cocky don’t really cut it for me - try vicious criminal racist - go on, don’t hold back.

Barnet
Please show where I have said I support him?
I and probably the majority of those posting on this thread have no direct knowledge of him or his true objective. Before I form an opinion I would need to look way back at what inspired him and whether his prejudices are genuine or not before I started following or slagging him. I think there are very few on this thread who have truly done that.
Please do not attribute any allegiances to me until and unless you actually know me.
Those of you who still consider yourselves virtue warriors should back up your claims with irrefutable evidence rather than abuse and swear words it does little to confirm your case.

suziwoozie
He is also being sued by the Syrian schoolboy in Huddersfield who he falsely accused of assault on others as a way of blaming the boy for being bullied and attacked (by a white boy of course). He put the Syrian boy in more danger of further attacks. How anyone with a grain of humanity can support or defend this ‘man’ is just beyond me. He is the epitome of obnoxiousness

The case has not been heard yet therefore your assumption that it was a false accusation cannot be made. The information that was repeated by TR must have come from somewhere whether truth or lies.

Also, (by a white boy of course)...is no other boy capable of aggression? Would you show the same rage if the boy perpetrating the aggression (which was vile) was black os say Chinese? do hope so.

A business man I know referred to a part of London where he owned a business as "the Khyber Pass" because of its large Asian population, and went on to make what I considered to be some offensive comments about Asians. I pointed out that since his business depended on them, it seemed that, despite his feelings about Asians, he wasn't averse to taking their money; moreover I considered his comments to be racist. He was adamant that he was not a racist.

This is the thing. It is not for white people living in a predominantly white country to state with confidence that there is very little racism here now. It may well be true that overt (or deliberate) racism is not as prevalent as it was in the 50's and 60's but I think it is probably inappropriate for white people to make assumptions as to the degree of racism experienced because they would not have first hand experience of it. And, whilst this man did not think his comments were racist, many non-white people would think they were.

I fully expect now some posters to come on Gransnet saying that their friend of Indian/Jamaican/African/Chinese origin has never experienced racism and thinks it's all a lot of fuss about nothing. It is often easier for non-white people not to rock the boat and to overlook insensitive or unkind comments so as to avoid people saying you "have a chip" on your shoulder or you are just "looking for trouble".

In any event, Tommy Robinson is one person that I can say with confidence is an out and out racist and a nasty piece of work.

Perhaps in some ways it's good that people like Johno can express their views on social network sites. Then they can't present themselves as "gagged" victims of some sort of liberal conspiracy, and people can read their views and, hopefully, decide that they are irrational, divisive and hate-filled.

OK
Tommy Robinson real name Steven Yaxley Lennon but has in fact used numerous pseudonyms.

British far right anti Islam activist. Previous member of the BNP and BFP. Is an active member of Pegida, another anti Islam organisation.

He has numerous criminal records and has served 3 jail sentences, these Clyde violence, financial fraud, immigration fraud, drug possession, public order offences and contempt.
His jail sentences were for mortgage fraud, assault, and using false travel documents.

He is awaiting sentence for his latest contempt case.

An all round good egg I should say???

Gonegirl
I'm actually astounded that GNHQ are allowing far right supporters to air their views on here. I know it all comes down to the "forum rules", but thinking outside the box for once might not be a bad idea

Are the ‘far righters’ those who you consider to have a different perspective to you and therefore you want them silenced. There is a term for that.

There is not one post on this thread that could be construed as far right, (that is if you really understand the term). However there are some posts here that could be attributed to an ideology that suppresses free speech and debate.

Just a note to say that there is masses of information about SYL, so if you are unsure you will be after reading that.

One of the worse members of society. Or the best if you are racist to your core.

WWM2
His jail sentences were for mortgage fraud, assault, and using false travel documents
Gosh!
There are probably more MPs with criminal records more sworded than this.