For those of you who use the words of war as if it is still being fought -

I have never believed that all of mankind originated in Africa.

Is it because you can't bear the thought of having African genes, Roseleah?

I think it's important, MaizieD, don't you?

I agree.

But if you think it's important why did you vote to isolate the UK from its closest neighbours and allies? That's what's puzzling me.

And who do you think benefits from a weakened Europe?

Pure blood?
The Welsh of course.

I think it's important, MaizieD, don't you? We do have to look beyond our own little view of the world and see the bigger picture. There is a lot of sabre-rattling going on at the moment, between Iran and the US/Uk...as well as in No.Korea. Setting people against each other is a good way to distract them and weaken their defences.

As for the 'Out Of Africa' theory. I have never believed that all of mankind originated in Africa. I think it's only a matter of time before we discover that humans evolved in different parts of the world at roughly the same time.

I watched Dr Alice Roberts programme on this subject. She was searching for evidence to support the theory, it should have been done the other way round. That chap in China was adamant that the orientals had not originated in Africa and as far as he was concerned, he had the proof in fossils, but she refused to accept it.

Thanks for your sympathy Grammaretto, but people enjoy having someone to pick on. It's rather fun to goad them!

Let's just look outside our own little bubble and consider the wider picture. Who fears a united, strong Europe? Who would gain from a weakened Europe intent on domestic hostility rather than world events?

Forget about bloodlines for a minute. I'm intrigued by this, posted by Roseleah at 11.17 yesterday.(Weds).

I know what I would say in answer, but why did you ask the question, Rose? I didn't think that Leavers were in any way bothered about the breakup of the EU.

That's a pretty clear explanation GracesGranMK3
Thanks. Poor Roseleah, everyone is so quick to pounce.
I hear a lot of that "pure blood" stuff and nonsense here in Scotland.
I haven't any English blood in me at all for example. It is divisive things like that that fuel racism.

So is the blood of these people the "out of Africa" really original settlers or the Iberians (from Spain) who moved across the continent to the still attached England? We now know the very earliest settlers were hunter-gatherers of the human species Homo antecessor who eked out a living on the flood plains and marshes having walked across the land bridge from the now European continent. Now there's a thought. A "true blood" Brit (I can't believe I'm writing that) was actually an immigrant from Europe so that's your ancestry is it RosieLeah?

I've put off answering. However, you obviously want a response.

There was a tv programme and a book on the DNA of the British people. Some people have ancestors who settled in one place and their descendants have stayed in the same location for generations. This was most notable in the West country. They did not inter-marry with the Vikings, or Saxons but remain the original settlers. This is what I meant by pureblood.

As for myself, as someone asked, I'm a mongrel...or a Heinz...a mixture of Irish, Scottish, Welsh and Saxon. So I was not referring to myself.

Hope that clarifies. It gave you all something to join forces in shock...lol

I thought we were all descended from Neanderthal. I am and proud to be....

RosieLeah hasn’t returned to enlighten us as to who comes into the pureblood category and how we can tell

I imagine the response would be similar to the recently deleted one that referred to preferred skin colour and religion. Casual racism abounds.

crystaltipps, This thread is, after all, about the language of war. I must admit I was thinking more of bunkers, air raids and enemies rather than the language used by the enemy. I used to have this weird idea that millions of people lost their lives to defeat that kind of thinking.

Crikey crystaltipps, that will be me then. Nothing pure about my blood in those eyes I guess.

Very well said, Fennel!

Indeed, why rock the boat?

Not that it couldn't be improved, but at least it's more stable than the alternatives.

RosieLeah hasn’t returned to enlighten us as to who comes into the pureblood category and how we can tell. ( though I’m sure we could have a good guess).

Well have a recession before Germany, and they’ll still be better off than us.

RosieLeah mentioned pureblood at 11.45 on this thread. Obviously something to be admired. She’d obviously like to get rid of us that aren’t in this category.

Who mentioned pure blood? Baffling. Nobody has 'pure blood' Unless you're in a Harry Potter book.

Yikes! Pure blood! Does this mean they will measure our features and check if we have blond hair, blue eyes, etc. Just as the Nazis did? I can't believe someone wrote that. I thought I was passed being shocked by GN posters.

Germany is headed for recession, crystaltipps

www.ft.com/content/40c204ca-b8da-11e9-96bd-8e884d3ea203

Some of the ultra right believe that to have pure blood you must be descended from the Neolithic people who built Stonehenge for example. Don't see many of those about.

I think I agree with Fennel. At least what's just been said. I thought the EU was unwieldy but the alternative is worse, much worse. It will always be a compromise.

America? China? where else? We have to align with someone and it seems as though it's anyone who'll have us now.

We can't even pick our own fruit and vegetables, let alone make anything anymore.

It intrigues me to read that the French (not all of-course) are looking at Frexit with a view to reducing the size of the EU to leave out those in the East who they see as a drain.....

But we haven’t joined the Euro so stop making whataboutery statements. and there’s no evidence that if we had, we wouldn’t have thrived, like Germany, with whom we have more in common than differences.

Some of us are still pureblood is that you then Roseleah? Bit of a leaf out of the Nazi playbook there. What counts as “pureblood” ? - do tell - I honestly have no idea. Have you forgotten the vikings, Romans, Norman conquest, not to mention Celts, Angles and Saxons then? The Royal Family wouldn’t come into the pureblood category would they?

To look at it another way, our membership of the EU has been a compromise in several ways. ie currency, we make the majority of our own laws we're reeprsented in the the EU parl etc.
And in exchange we have very favourable trading arrangements with other european countries, the Irish people are fairly satisfied. etc
So why rock the boat?

Thank goodness we were able to keep our currency. I would imagine had this thread been going back when we were debating the Euro you devotees of the EU would have gone along with all the 'experts' Of which there were many. Who forecast total disaster for the country if we didn't accept the Euro. Recession, unemployment, house price crash etc etc. Never happened. Experts got it wrong. Again.

Exactly Minniemoo, I have made this point previously on other threads, and unsurprisingly Remainers don't seem to respond. Wonder why?