Post Brexit food

Sighs. Growstuff Many of the arguments on here are from those who wish to remain saying that leavers are dim because they won't listen to experts. You rely on experts for many of your points. But obviously experts from 10, 20
years ago weren't experts at all. Because they got it wrong so you don't want to be reminded that your beloved 'experts' can get things wrong.

I also did not say that anyone 'hated' the EU either.

You lot talk amongst yourselves.

You can all pat each other on the back saying 'well said' to each other. One day you'll wake up and see you're on your own.

Even in this post Leavers are being referred to as ignorant.

I think that your ignorance of the EU is astounding actually. You seem to see it as some sort of Utopia.

Oh and one more thing. I saw a comment saying that we needed the EU in order to allow Eastern Europeans to come in to do jobs that we won't do.

How insulting is that? Disgusting attitude. So we're basically behaving as we did in the past. Get the poor people to come and do our awful jobs.

Check up on tariffs to Africa.

Try and educate yourselves. Not just with articles that suit your agenda.

I wonder how we managed for food pre 1973?
I don't agree with brexit, but that's my choice. However, all this scaremongering is ridiculous. I know what I'd like to do with Cameron et al!

Just out of interest I looked at origins of veg I had (Tesco). Beans from Ethiopia, asparagus from UK, strawberries from UK, xx

What a ridiculous response.
What use would it be to stockpile fresh fruit and veg ?
3 days and that's it.
How about hammering those who are comfortably off for everything that you object to. It happens time and again.
Don't forget, barely more than half of all UK adults pay tax whilst companies banks and the better off are asked to pay more.
Some of us worked and still work our socks off to get to the level of comfort we want in retirement.

The problem with being relentlessly positive about supplies after a no deal Brexit is that it flies in the face or reality.

I do believe there will be fresh food shortages & price rises, though I don’t think we will starve. I also think that there will be panic buying, it’s human nature. I think in the end there might have to be rationing for some goods. The supply of medicines is a particular worry.

I am convinced the rich will get richer & the rest of us will be poorer. I am currently trying to think what I can do to redress the situation for my children & grandchildren.

The best thing we can do to redress the situation for our children and grandchildren is to campaign to STOP BREXIT.

Join the Liberal Democrats or Greens or another Remain supporting party. Write to MPs, newspapers, websites. Support the People's Vote campaign.

Brexit is not, and should not, be inevitable. It should not be treated as a fait-a-complis. It could happen but it could be stopped.

What a thread with horrible remarks.
I dont think it will come to rationing,surely there are plans in place in order the UK wont go under.If people dont start panic buying now,things will be alright later on.Lets all help each other as they did during the war, and things were much worse then.

I've no intention of patting anybody on the back. Actually, almost half the country agrees with me, so I'm hardly on my own.

I actually think so much damage has been done to values in this country that it will take years to recover - whether Brexit happens or not, so I'm certainly not patting myself on the back, unlike some of the Brexiter posters on here who were celebrating before 31 March.

Yet another strawman argument!

Well said Varian. What have we come to as a country, talking about food shortages and rationing in 2019. I guess Rees-Mogg will still be able to feed his family using euros from his Irish company.

I doubt there will be rationing, either. Quite frankly, we don't have the organisation, staffing or political will to do it.

What will happen is that food supply will be left to market forces. If there is scarcity of certain foodstuffs, prices will rise, so only the more affluent will be able to afford them.

Maybe we plebs should dig out some recipes for turnip soup, which I'm sure is delicious.

Why is it a disgusting comment to explain that Eastern Europeans will sometimes do jobs we won't do? It's a fact that they can earn more and live in better conditions than is often possible in Eastern Europe. That's changing, by the way, which is why the trend is for Poles and others to return home.

I reserve the word "disgusting" for really disgusting situations.

Varian, I think I will sign up to the Lib Dems. I have always disliked extremes of left or right. I accepted the referendum result - I voted remain- but think leaving without a deal is ridiculous self harm.

We import 60% of our foodstuffs, about 40% from the EU. We won’t suddenly increase our food production in 2 months, so we will be paying more for less. Is that what we were promised? No, we were promised that everything would be the same, we’d have a great deal and we’d have a lot more money to spend on public services. People seem to have stopped saying that somewhere along the line, now it’s well have to grow our own and put up with a bit more austerity. The country isn’t going to suddenly “ pull together” and “get behind this marvellous project” so forget that one. Leavers can own their own mess thanks.

Interesting about U.K. remaining outside the Eurozone - when the Euro first came into being for a few years it was worth 60p which for sterling was better value than against other European currencies of mother time. It is now worth 90+ p for a each Euro - are we still better to be outside the Eurozone?

I find it disgusting, and I'll happily use the word disgusting, to suggest we nee to use cheap labour from the EU to do the jobs we don't want to do.

Just like we were in Colonial times!

Let the poor Polish/Romanians clean our loos.

Lovely attitude.

And as for living in better conditions here.

I take it you haven't seen any of the numerous programmes where houses are filled to the rafters with Eastern Europeans sleeping 10 to a room. In appalling, unsafe conditions. Being over worked and underpaid.

Well done Adelejay

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^I wasn't there in person but we're told there were food shortages and very limited options during the war and (to put two threads together) people weren't overweight but they survived. Perhaps a bit of austerity will do us good^ Unbelievable.

Something no-one seems to have mentioned is just how much food is wasted, both in this country and world-wide.

The amount of food discarded before it even reaches the supermarkets or thrown away afterwards, is obscene. Our food is relatively cheap as a proportion of our income these days and many do not treat it as a precious commodity, have no inkling of the hard work that goes into feeding us.

Perhaps we will all learn to appreciate our food and its sources more post-Brexit.

UK throwing away £13bn of food each year, latest figures show

Waste and recycling advisory body says 4.4m tonnes of household food waste thrown away in 2015 could have been eaten
That is from an old article but I doubt that things have got much better and may well have got worse.

We should be ashamed.

I take it you haven't been to any of the poor, rural areas of Easter Europe.

I don't disagree with you, Callistemon. I don't disagree with some of the other comments either. However, the government has had three years to plan this. What happened to some kind of public education programme about food waste and healthy nutrition?

During WW2, whole ministries were focused on educating the public about food. Where is the leadership for this kind of thing? The answer is that it won't happen, because so many people are in denial.

Yes Callistemon there is too much food wasted, but I don't think that food shortages in the shops, even if only temporary, is the way to cure that.

Growstuff, in response to your message if you read my post you would see “what was available”.

Fait accompli!

Omigosh.